-=> ED HULETT wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 EH> WAYNE CHIRNSIDE -> ROSS SAUER wrote:
 -=>> ROSS SAUER wrote to STAN HARDEGREE <=-

 RS>> "Stan Hardegree -> All"  wrote in
 RS>> news:14412$POL_DISORDER{at}JamNNTPd:

 SH>> Today, Obama attached to legislation a signing statement so brazen in
 SH>> its hypocrisy that democrats in Congress are bitching about it.
 SH>> Listening to the moonbats here and in the other echoes, when GW issued
 SH>> a signing statement, it had the effect of nullifying the Constitution
 SH>> (this was particularly true of the criminal Chirnside and the
 SH>> illiterate Ceppa.  Otto Archie has no idea what a signing statement
 SH>> is).  Everyone seems to be quiet about the Obama statement, though.

 RS>> Just what was this signing statememnt?

 WC> Well, there's only six to chose from as opposed to 1,200 for GW's terms in
 WC> office.

 EH> The Dems in the House aren't happy with Obama's few signing statements
 EH> and he has 3 and a half more years in office to do more.

I'm not happy he isn't overturning nte Military Commissions act
of 2006, however the alternative is also totally unacceptable.

Many of the Guantamino detainees ( some say 50 percent) as well
many others kept elsewhere are innocent.
Many simply picked by the Norther alliance ( tribal war lords)
to sell to Americans for profit.

Subjected to the torture they were it's unremarkable many
pled guilty to stuff the never did.
Anything they said under previously existing law would have to be
thrown out as inadmissable.

IOW's Obama if he kept promise of eliminating the Military commissions Act
of 2006 would have to by law free them all because of the coersion
and hearsay evidence used against them.

Now had Bush operated under existing U.S. and international law and not 
made his own up as he went along Guantamino would no longer exist
as its detainess would either been freed if innocent or convicted 
if found guilty.

So now we're with two bad alternatives neither of which is satisfactory

 RS>> And let's see, what did you say about the hundreds of signing
 RS>> statements Bush made?

 WC> It's the duty of Congress to make the laws.

 EH> They also are sworn to uphold and protect the Constitution just like
 EH> the President.

Obviously.
Did a damned lousy job of it under Bush but until 06 it was R
majority.

 WC> It's the duty of the executive branch to observe those laws,
 WC> also to protect, observe and obey the U.S. Constitution.

 WC> That having been said I'm having some real problems with
 WC> Barack Obama with regards to TARP II and a number of other things.

 EH> Obama has only been in office for 6 months and has had a Democrat
 EH> controlled Congress to help him amass a deficit over $1 trillion and
 EH> projected to be over $2 trillion by the end of the year.

Oh yeah, I oppose that.
Bush cost us more though.
Bush's stupid missle defense system which and and all legitimate
experts say is completely unworkable and even if it did under
ideal conditions, like U.S. test where there was a homing beacon
on the target missle there are six countermeasures all easily
within the grasp of all countries capable of making and launching ICBMs

There's hundreds and hundreds of billions in waste right there.

 WC> But then, I never expected one administration to near be able
 WC> to correct the abuses, excesses and damage done by the previous
 WC> administration.

 EH> What a load of crap. Obama has done far worse in the short time he has
 EH> been in office.

No, he has not.

 WC> With great good luck and 20 years that just may be accomplished.

 EH> We have a VP who claims we need to spend money or go bankrupt.

 EH> Obama and his loose cannon of a VP will be the ruin of this country.


George W. Bush was the ruin of this country and I'm confident
history will bear me out, along with: Richard Pearle, Donald Rumsfeld, 
Richard Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz and Douglass Feith.

G.W. Bush is the only non-member of PNAC which brought us the Iraq ware.
Jeb Bush however s a member.


 
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