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Jeff Binkley -> Wayne Chirnside wrote: WC>>> I'm not happy he isn't overturning nte Military Commissions act WC>>> of 2006, however the alternative is also totally unacceptable. WC>>> Many of the Guantamino detainees ( some say 50 percent) as well WC>>> many others kept elsewhere are innocent. WC>>> Many simply picked by the Norther alliance ( tribal war lords) WC>>> to sell to Americans for profit. WC>>> Subjected to the torture they were it's unremarkable many WC>>> pled guilty to stuff the never did. WC>>> Anything they said under previously existing law would have to be WC>>> thrown out as inadmissable. WC>>> IOW's Obama if he kept promise of eliminating the Military WC>>> commissions Act of 2006 would have to by law free them all WC>>> because of the coersion and hearsay evidence used against them. WC>>> Now had Bush operated under existing U.S. and international law WC>>> and not made his own up as he went along Guantamino would no WC>>> longer exist as its detainess would either been freed if innocent WC>>> or convicted if found guilty. WC>>> So now we're with two bad alternatives neither of which is WC>>> satisfactory JB>>> I think we let them go in your neighborhood and you can tell us JB>>> which ones are the good guys from the bad guys. WC>> Had W elected to enforce existing law the problems would no longer WC>> exist. They'd have been tried and where appropriate convicted. JB> You assume they would be convicted. The current US criminal laws do not JB> account for enemy combatants. They are covered by military law. You JB> and your ilk want to make them US citizens, parade a dozen ACLU lawyers JB> into the courtroom, embarass the US and then allow them to get off on a JB> technicality. WC>> Instead he went about making up laws, illegal laws, thus the problems WC>> we're in now. JB> What is an illegal law ? That is what I'd like to know as well. WC>> John Yoo of the office of legal council is also highly complicit. JB> FDR followed a similar approach and more, yet he is the hero for the JB> left. FDR tried to stack the Supreme Court with extra justices that would rule his way, yet he is still the hero of the left. Ed -- "Truth does not become more true by virtue of the fact that the entire world agrees with it, nor less so even if the whole world disagrees with it." --Jewish philosopher Maimonides (1135-1204) "Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition." --Thomas Jefferson Linux User #416016 Linux Machine #385030 --- Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090608)* Origin: Fidonet Via Newsreader - http://www.easternstar.info (1:123/789.0) SEEN-BY: 10/1 3 11/331 34/999 120/228 123/500 128/2 187 140/1 226/0 236/150 SEEN-BY: 249/303 250/306 261/20 38 100 1381 1404 1406 1418 266/1413 280/1027 SEEN-BY: 320/119 396/45 633/260 267 712/848 801/161 189 2222/700 2320/100 105 SEEN-BY: 5030/1256 @PATH: 123/789 500 261/38 633/260 267 |
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