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echo: binkd
to: MARK LEWIS
from: MICHIEL VAN DER VLIST
date: 2015-03-01 11:30:00
subject: File requesting with bink

Hello mark,

On Saturday February 28 2015 11:32, you wrote to me:

[ file request on hold ]

 MvdV>> You would get rid of the "maybe not" very soon if you were a
 MvdV>> node in 28 during the CSO wars. It definitely was considered
 MvdV>> annoying behaviour here. No maybe about it.

 ml> that's when i would simply turn on the option of NOT picking up
 ml> requests... simple and easy to do...

Easy for mailers software that supports that option. Not all do. InterMail
doesn't. Irex doesn't. So even trying it was considered annoying behaviour.

 ml>> not everyone has zero cost for their internet connections...
 ml>> there are still many on metered connections... placing reqs on
 ml>> hold may still be desirable to some...

 MvdV>> In the IP age it does not help to reduce cost on the metered
 MvdV>> connection. The cost is not paid by the initiator of the
 MvdV>> connection, it is paid by the amount of bytes transfered. The
 MvdV>> requester pays either way.

 ml> not in all cases... some are metered by their outbound requests...
 ml> i've worked with several that have this setup...

Now you are doing it again: Creating an outlandish scenario by stacking
exception upun excapotion until the situation becomes so exceptional that the
original action makes no sens any more.

 ml>> you and i are not the ones to determine that nor are we the ones
 ml>> to tell others they cannot do that...

 MvdV>> I am not telling others what to do, nor am I making it
 MvdV>> impossible for them do do as they always did. All that I want
 MvdV>> is that I can perform certain functions without the need to
 MvdV>> jump through hoops in order to support ballast that I no longer
 MvdV>> need.

 ml> then perhaps binkd and the BSO format is not for you...

You are not the one to tell me what is good for me or not. I will decide for
myself what suits my situation.

 ml> the fact is that these hoops are needed and they always have for the
 ml> BSO format...  hese activities to be unnecessary hoops but they
 ml> aren't... they are SOP for the format being used...

"have always been"... "SOP for the format"... That does not impress me very
much. W'd still be riding horses instead of cars, trains and airplanes if we
had all followed that line of reasoning.

I see a short cut here that gets rid of at least one hoop.


Cheers, Michiel

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