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echo: pol_disorder
to: Wayne Chirnside
from: Jeff Binkley
date: 2009-07-22 14:31:00
subject: Re: SIGNING STATEMENT

WC> WC>I'm not happy he isn't overturning nte Military Commissions act
WC> WC>of 2006, however the alternative is also totally unacceptable.

WC> WC>Many of the Guantamino detainees ( some say 50 percent) as well
WC> WC>many others kept elsewhere are innocent.
WC> WC>Many simply picked by the Norther alliance ( tribal war lords)
WC> WC>to sell to Americans for profit.

WC> WC>Subjected to the torture they were it's unremarkable many
WC> WC>pled guilty to stuff the never did.
WC> WC>Anything they said under previously existing law would have to be
WC> WC>thrown out as inadmissable.

WC> WC>IOW's Obama if he kept promise of eliminating the Military
WC> WC>commissions Act of 2006 would have to by law free them all
WC> WC>because of the coersion and hearsay evidence used against them.

WC> WC>Now had Bush operated under existing U.S. and international law
WC> WC>and not  made his own up as he went along Guantamino would no
WC> WC>longer exist as its detainess would either been freed if innocent
WC> WC>or convicted  if found guilty.

WC> WC>So now we're with two bad alternatives neither of which is
WC> WC>satisfactory

WC> JB> I think we let them go in your neighborhood and you can tell us
WC> JB> which ones are the good guys from the bad guys.

WC>Had W elected to enforce existing law the problems would no longer
WC>exist. They'd have been tried and where appropriate convicted.

You assume they would be convicted.  The current US criminal laws do not 
account for enemy combatants.  They are covered by military law.  You 
and your ilk want to make them US citizens,  parade a dozen ACLU lawyers 
into the courtroom,  embarass the US and then allow them to get off on a 
technicality.


WC>Instead he went about making up laws, illegal laws, thus the problems
WC>we're in now.

What is an illegal law ?


WC>John Yoo of the office of legal council is also highly complicit.

FDR followed a similar approach and more, yet he is the hero for the 
left.  


Jeff

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