Hello Roger.,

 -=> Quoting Roger Nelson to Peter Coggon <=-

 RN> It's really very sad.  My youngest son was in the Marine Corps and was
 RN> sent to Beirut right after those 253 Marines were killed by a truck
 RN> bomb.  His unit was to relieve those already there and those who were
 RN> killed didn't come home in a way they expected.  During the skirmishes
 RN> which ensued, I almost lost my son in a mortar attack.

That news of a near loss of a love one must have numbed you.
 
 RN> Nah, I'm referring to the old stuff.  It's really spicy, but I
 RN> wouldn't put it on food or eat while reading.  (-:

Oh, then perhaps I should make a special order for the complete works
of Mr. Roger Nelson?

 RN> Well, yeah, I can imagine it.  I've seen photos my son took while
 RN> there and he told me that whole area is very beautiful.  But those
 RN> stoneheads will never get over their religious anger long enough to
 RN> realize they're sitting on a gold mine.  It's the older ones who
 RN> constantly teach the younger ones to hate that I have the biggest
 RN> problem with.   

My nephew was there too, and taking taboo photos which I later told
him , if caught he would be shot.   Dummie, too yonge to realize
the complexities of the area.

Yes very beautiful.

PC> There is even a ladder or remains against a wall
PC> dispute, as celery fist fight over who can do what where
PC> Apparently the ladder dates from late 1800s.
   > 
 RN> Maybe even earlier than that.

Yes there are examples, I saw in the photos, and also the too too
many divisions of christain infighting with others that are
either Christain or otherwise.
 
 RN> To our way of life it is stupid.  What they fail to realize is even if
 RN> they were to eradicate the people they hate the most (the Israelis) and
 RN> have that whole territory for themselves, then what's next?

This is an area, which is so innvolved in dispute over this or that
Christians against others, or Israeli vs Israeli or Arab and so forth
......eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrr!   Too big.  Boggles the mind :)
 
 RN> It's an out and out waste of time and men and the elderly
 RN> irresponsibles are directly responsible because that hate has been
 RN> handed down for generations.

Yes,   they still very much remember some invaders from 1000AD
like it was yesterday, and this , as you say is all handed down
from the elders to the children.

I don't mind them remembering, and ok..so nasty deeds were done
but this is today, and we are all supposed to be a bit more
enlightened..or so I thought.
 
 RN> Peace on THEIR terms.
 RN> 
 RN> 
 RN> Regards,
 RN> 
 RN> Roger

Roger, I would go with Peace on their terms, as it is and shall be
but I would also for the price on their terms ask that concessions
be made on many outstanding issues old and new, and I know there
must be give and take.
 
I have an invite from an Arab family to visit the Middle East
and it was funny how this came about, as I a western took the
time to greet the husband on a festival the correct way, as
well when he was injured at work I took it upon myself to make 
sure he was cared for and his family were informed and
transported .....thus I hope to see from the other side
and ....ok ...maybe dangerous thing to do.

Have a great week

Peter




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