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Ross Sauer -> All wrote: RS> Well, since Stan as usual is unwilling to do any actual research to back RS> his claim, (like when he described Walter Cronkite as a loud drunk,) and RS> Ed is simply too lazy to do any research either, I did 20 seconds of RS> research, (by typing "Obama signing statement" into Google, and I found RS> the article below. You blatant liar! I gave you the link to that article! RS> I don't like it that this attachment was jammed into a war spending RS> bill, and I especially don't like it that Obama has said he doesn't have RS> to abide by this attachment. Uh huh... RS> He could have simply demanded the attachment be removed, the same way he RS> did with the F-22 pork spending attachment. You best set your little buddy Wayne straight. RS> Democrats irked by Obama signing statement The very same article I cited to you. RS> By ANNE FLAHERTY (AP) - 6 hours ago RS> WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama has irked close allies in Congress RS> by declaring he has the right to ignore legislation on constitutional RS> grounds after having criticized George W. Bush for doing the same. RS> Four senior House Democrats on Tuesday said they were "surprised" and RS> "chagrined" by Obama's declaration in June that he doesn't have to RS> comply with provisions in a war spending bill that puts conditions on RS> aid provided to the World Bank and International Monetary Fund. RS> In a signing statement accompanying the $106 billion bill, Obama said he RS> wouldn't allow the legislation to interfere with his authority as RS> president to conduct foreign policy and negotiate with other RS> governments. RS> Earlier in his six-month-old administration, Obama issued a similar RS> statement regarding provisions in a $410 billion omnibus spending bill. RS> He also included qualifying remarks when signing legislation that RS> established commissions to govern public lands in New York, investigate RS> the financial crisis and celebrate Ronald Reagan's birthday. I even quoted the next two paragraphs to you... RS> "During the previous administration, all of us were critical of (Bush's) RS> assertion that he could pick and choose which aspects of congressional RS> statutes he was required to enforce," the Democrats wrote in their RS> letter to Obama. "We were therefore chagrined to see you appear to RS> express a similar attitude." RS> The letter was signed by Reps. David Obey of Wisconsin, chairman of the RS> House Appropriations Committee, and Barney Frank of Massachusetts, RS> chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, as well as Reps. RS> Nita Lowey and Gregory Meeks, both of New York, who chair subcommittees RS> on those panels. ....and you have the gall to claim I'm too lazy to look things up? RS> Obama needs Obey and Frank in particular to push through Congress key RS> pieces of his agenda, including health care and financial oversight RS> reform. RS> The White House said Tuesday the administration plans to implement the RS> provisions of the bill and suggested that Obama's signing statement was RS> aimed more at defending the president's executive powers than skirting RS> the law. RS> "The president has also already made it clear that he will not ignore RS> statutory obligations on the basis of policy disagreements and will RS> reserve signing statements for legislation that raises clearly RS> identified constitutional concerns," White House spokesman Ben LaBolt RS> said in a statement. RS> Bush issued a record number of signing statements while in office as he RS> sparred with Democrats on such big issues as the war in Iraq. RS> Democrats, including Obama, sharply criticized Bush as overstepping his RS> bounds as president. In March, Obama ordered a review of Bush's RS> guidelines for implementing legislation. RS> "There is no doubt that the practice of issuing such statements can be RS> abused," Obama wrote in a memo to the heads of executive departments and RS> agencies. RS> At the same time, however, Obama did not rule out issuing any signing RS> statements, which have been used for centuries. Rather, he ordered his RS> administration to work with Congress to inform lawmakers about concerns RS> over legality before legislation ever reaches his desk. He also pledged RS> to use caution and restraint when writing his own signing statements, RS> and said he would rely on Justice Department guidance when doing so. RS> Two days after issuing the memo, Obama issued his first signing RS> statement exerting executive power after receiving a $410 billion RS> omnibus spending bill. He said the bill would "unduly interfere" with RS> his authority by directing him how to proceed, or not to, in RS> negotiations and discussions with international organizations and RS> foreign governments. RS> Obey and the other House lawmakers said this week that Obama's signing RS> statement on the war bill will make it tougher in the future to persuade RS> other lawmakers to support the World Bank and IMF. RS> If Congress can't place conditions on the money, "it will make it RS> virtually impossible to provide further allocations for these RS> institutions," they wrote. RS> Copyright (c) 2009 The Associated Press. 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