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echo: pol_disorder
to: WAYNE CHIRNSIDE
from: Ed Hulett
date: 2009-07-22 00:18:08
subject: Signing statement

WAYNE CHIRNSIDE -> ED HULETT wrote:
 -=>> ED HULETT wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

 EH>> WAYNE CHIRNSIDE -> ROSS SAUER wrote:
 -=>>> ROSS SAUER wrote to STAN HARDEGREE <=-

 RS>>> "Stan Hardegree -> All"  wrote in
 RS>>> news:14412$POL_DISORDER{at}JamNNTPd:

 SH>>> Today, Obama attached to legislation a signing statement so brazen in
 SH>>> its hypocrisy that democrats in Congress are bitching about it.
 SH>>> Listening to the moonbats here and in the other echoes, when GW
 WC> issued
 SH>>> a signing statement, it had the effect of nullifying the Constitution
 SH>>> (this was particularly true of the criminal Chirnside and the
 SH>>> illiterate Ceppa.  Otto Archie has no idea what a signing statement
 SH>>> is).  Everyone seems to be quiet about the Obama statement, though.

 RS>>> Just what was this signing statememnt?

 WC>> Well, there's only six to chose from as opposed to 1,200 for GW's
 WC> terms in
 WC>> office.

 EH>> The Dems in the House aren't happy with Obama's few signing statements
 EH>> and he has 3 and a half more years in office to do more.

 WC> I'm not happy he isn't overturning nte Military Commissions act
 WC> of 2006, however the alternative is also totally unacceptable.

Good for you...

 WC> Many of the Guantamino detainees ( some say 50 percent) as well
 WC> many others kept elsewhere are innocent.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

You are still a moonbat.

 WC> Many simply picked by the Norther alliance ( tribal war lords)
 WC> to sell to Americans for profit.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

 WC> Subjected to the torture they were it's unremarkable many
 WC> pled guilty to stuff the never did.

They weren't subjected to torture.

 WC> Anything they said under previously existing law would have to be
 WC> thrown out as inadmissable.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

 WC> IOW's Obama if he kept promise of eliminating the Military commissions Act
 WC> of 2006 would have to by law free them all because of the coersion
 WC> and hearsay evidence used against them.

Good grief, you are a nut. A total nut!

 WC> Now had Bush operated under existing U.S. and international law and not
 WC> made his own up as he went along Guantamino would no longer exist
 WC> as its detainess would either been freed if innocent or convicted
 WC> if found guilty.

He did operate under US law.

 WC> So now we're with two bad alternatives neither of which is satisfactory

It's all Bush's fault, says the moonbat.

 RS>>> And let's see, what did you say about the hundreds of signing
 RS>>> statements Bush made?

 WC>> It's the duty of Congress to make the laws.

 EH>> They also are sworn to uphold and protect the Constitution just like
 EH>> the President.

 WC> Obviously.

Which they aren't doing.

 WC> Did a damned lousy job of it under Bush but until 06 it was R
 WC> majority.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

 WC>> It's the duty of the executive branch to observe those laws,
 WC>> also to protect, observe and obey the U.S. Constitution.

 WC>> That having been said I'm having some real problems with
 WC>> Barack Obama with regards to TARP II and a number of other things.

 EH>> Obama has only been in office for 6 months and has had a Democrat
 EH>> controlled Congress to help him amass a deficit over $1 trillion and
 EH>> projected to be over $2 trillion by the end of the year.

 WC> Oh yeah, I oppose that.

Sure you do.

 WC> Bush cost us more though.

That is a lie.

 WC> Bush's stupid missle defense system which and and all legitimate
 WC> experts say is completely unworkable and even if it did under
 WC> ideal conditions, like U.S. test where there was a homing beacon
 WC> on the target missle there are six countermeasures all easily
 WC> within the grasp of all countries capable of making and launching ICBMs

You are full of it. It works! It has been proven many times over!

 WC> There's hundreds and hundreds of billions in waste right there.

Obama spent $787 billion on a "stimulus" bill that stimulated nothing.

 WC>> But then, I never expected one administration to near be able
 WC>> to correct the abuses, excesses and damage done by the previous
 WC>> administration.

 EH>> What a load of crap. Obama has done far worse in the short time he has
 EH>> been in office.

 WC> No, he has not.

Yes, he has. We are in a recession and all he can do is spend more money
and tax everyone.

 WC>> With great good luck and 20 years that just may be accomplished.

 EH>> We have a VP who claims we need to spend money or go bankrupt.

 EH>> Obama and his loose cannon of a VP will be the ruin of this country.


 WC> George W. Bush was the ruin of this country and I'm confident
 WC> history will bear me out, along with: Richard Pearle, Donald Rumsfeld,
 WC> Richard Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz and Douglass Feith.

You don't have a single clue.

 WC> G.W. Bush is the only non-member of PNAC which brought us the Iraq ware.
 WC> Jeb Bush however s a member.

Huh? The Iraq war was brought by Saddam Husein and his lies.

Ed

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