PK> IMHO the key to 2. is solving 1., in that a VERY simple change to P4
 PK> (EG: the Nodelist entry for Fidonews) would probably have worked and
 PK> been passed IF it had been the ONLY proposed change.

   It's really interesting to hear this coming from the other side of the
globe, since this was *exactly* what I tried to make all parties involved
to understand -- to no avail!

   Just take a minimal step to have a P4.08 launched, and the rest would
have been much easier. After that we could have launched 4.09, 4.10 and so
on, until we suddenly might have had a P5.

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