On 06/04/2018 06:56, mark lewis wrote:
>   On 2018 Apr 06 12:45:02, you wrote to me:
>
>   DJ> In article , Mark lewis wrote:
>   >> 2. don't fall afoul of thinking that everyone reading usenet uses a
>   >> newsreader... many are connected via BBSes...
>
>   DJ> I doubt that there are "many" people using usenet at all, these days.
>
> you might be right :)
>
>   DJ> I will allow that some of those that do choose to eschew the
>   DJ> convenience of dedicated newesreader software -- I will even allow
>   DJ> that those few may represent a greater proportion of the total of
>   DJ> usenet users than was the case in the heyday of usenet -- but I
>   DJ> wouldn't say "many" did so ... not since dedicated newsreader software
>   DJ> became commonplace.
>
> that depends on one's environment, really...
>
>   DJ> .. but I see you're using something called vSoup. I thought I knew
>   DJ> newsreaders, but I don't recall ever hearing of that before now.
>
> nope... that's another system using that software... it is based on SOUP
> packets... that system, mine and another >1500 systems, some with hundreds of
> users, are all networked together around the world outside of the internet...
> the network has been around since the early '80s... today, though, it uses
the
> internet for its transport whereas previously it used dialup POTS connections
> for its users access and mail transmissions... think "store and forward
packet
> switching"...
>
>   >> 3. define "proper newsreader" and "non-standard quoting prefixes"
>   >> ... i can tell you know that i've been quoting and using the same
>   >> quoting prefix methodology for 30 years... that seems to be pretty
>   >> standard to me ;)
>
>   DJ> I would say that "non-standard quoting prefixes" are quoting prefixes
>   DJ> that do not conform to a standard.
>
> interesting... we do have a standard, such as it is... it is not required,
> though... no system is forced to recognise or implement it :)
>
>   DJ> The nearest thing we have to a standard is probably RFC3676, which is
>   DJ> "only" 14 years old. That RFC addresses the problem of (re-)flowing
>   DJ> paragraph text in internet messages (specifically MIME, used by both
>   DJ> mail and news services) to remain within the line lengths specified for
>   DJ> SMTP and NNTP, and in doing so it makes use of the already widely
>   DJ> accepted convention of prefixing quoted lines with '>' characters.
>
> no, that's ""your"" standard... we, in this other network, have our own
> standard for quoting messages... our standards are not RFCs, either :)
>
>   DJ> That convention is rather older. RFC1849 was not published until March
>   DJ> 2010 -- a mere 8 years ago -- but its text is the content of the
>   DJ> "son-of-1036" memo written by Henry Spencer in around 1993/4. I note
>   DJ> that the use of '>' as a prefix for quoted text it presented there
>   DJ> without comment, suggesting that its acceptance as a 'standard' way to
>   DJ> represent quoted text was already so widespread as to require no
>   DJ> explanation. 24 years ago.
>
> you'll note that our standard, such as it is, uses the ">" prefixed by the
> first letters of the individual's name as written in the FROM field... some
> systems add another ">" to existing quotes so that one can easily follow the
> level of quoting as they read a message... we also have a TO field, which you
> guys do not :) :) :)
>
>   DJ> Yeah, OK, you've been doing it differently for 30 years -- and I note
>   DJ> your wry smiley -- but sometimes it pays to move with the times, and
I'd
>   DJ> argue that compatibility with the RFC3676 *standard* was a good reason
>   DJ> to do so, here.
>
> we are moving with the times... we're just moving to a different drummer, my
> friend... we can all dance on the same dance floor, too :)
>
> FWIW: perhaps you know, maybe, what the original old-school BBS is? that's
> where we come from... pure ASCII text... no HTML or similar muckity muck
> :mrgreen:
>
> )\/(ark
>
> Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
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it
> wrong...
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>

That is just so unnecessarily difficult to read the obvious response
is.... *plonk*.

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