-=> Mocking Luther Kolb to Denis S. Kotov <=-
   
 LK> 11783 is not "enormous" if you believe that Dr Solomon can detect
 LK> >16,000, but here's where virus detection claims start to smell like
 LK> bullshit,
 LK> and IMO, even though Dr. Solomon is a very good AV program, it has a
 LK> strong smell of bullshit! 
yeah, but you're rather biased...
 LK> There are "Confusion Engines" which will easily create 50 minor
 LK> variants of a virus.  If "Scanner A" detects all 50 of these variants
 LK> with ONE definition but "Scanner B" has to use 50 definitions, or if
 LK> "Scanner A" refers to the 50 variants as a "family" and "Scanner B"
 LK> calls each variant an individual virus, does "Scanner B" detect 49
 LK> more VIRUSES than "Scanner A" ?  NO WAY! 
correct... they detect the same number of viruses, and if the people who
make scanner A are smart, they'll enumerate those viruses in a manner
which serves their purpose best (that being to sell a product - thus
they'll say they detect 50, they won't tell you they detect all 50 with
the same definition though - and good for them, i'm rather partial to
"exact identification" and detecting 50 different viruses with the same
definition is not exact)...
 LK> AVP, with its claimed 11783, detects more of my virus test set than
 LK> Dr. Solomon detects with its claimed >16,000.  ThunderBYTE, with its
 LK> claimed 6487, detects more of my virus test bed than Dr. Solomon
 LK> detects with its claimed >16,000. 
avp has a higher false alarm rate than dr. solly... fact is most
scanners have a higher false alarm rate than dr. solly... dr. solly by
default does exact identification... the only other scanner i know of
that does exact id at all is f-prot with the /guru switch enabled (it
may also require the /paranoid switch - i don't recall off hand)...
 LK> Dr. Solomon's staff continually ram the UT "independent review" down
 LK> everyone's throat in alt.comp.virus, but it's snake oil.  If Dr.
 LK> Solomon's policy is to ensure that it always detects 100% of Joe
 LK> Wells' Wild List, even at the expense of detecting other viruses, then
 LK> Dr. Solomon can never be anything but #1 in any "independent test"
 LK> which is based solely on this List. Can you smell the bullshit ? 
this is why i don't look at the uni-tampere test as much as i used to...
last i read, the virus research unit at uni-tampere consisted of a whole
one person - the scope of the test has been scaled down to wild list
testing...
take a look at february's uni-hamburg test though... wild list and non
wild list viruses, numbering close to 12,000... in it, dr. solly STILL rates
as #1, with avp a very, very close second for overall virus detection,
and both scored 100% for wildlist virus detection...
 DK> Http: // www.avp.ru
 DK> Http: // www.dials.ccas.ru
 LK> AVP is also on http://www.antivirus.com.au and ftp.antivirus.com.au
 LK> for download.  There's nothing fancy on the sites, just the downloads. 
is it just me, or does it seem like people forget that scanners aren't
the only av programs... www.dials.ccas.ru is a good site, and it
contains adinf, which wasn't even mentioned in that message...
... the "any" key is that red button by the power switch...
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