From: "Rich" 

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   How does IE changing the menus prevent competition?

   Why do you claim it doesn't make things better?  It saves space =
allowing for more of the web page to be displayed.  The new menus are =
simpler and better organized.   Just because change means you are =
exposed to something to which you are not accustomed doesn't mean it =
isn't for the better?

   Are you really so change adverse?  You keep using cars as an example =
so let's use them.  What do you do with the tens or hundreds of things =
that differ from model to model and year to year such as the location = and
use of controls for headlights, windshield wipers, gas cap, trunk, = radio,
heating, air conditioning, CD players, glove box, cup holders, = seats,
windows, locks, etc.  You get the idea.  If you can deal with any = of this
I am shocked that you have so much difficulty with the small = change in
the menus.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:45934a36$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  I like change when it makes things better, I don't like change
  when it's simply to prevent competition and doesn't make things =
better.
  There is a world full of people who know how to use File/Edit/View, so =
what
  do they get out of this change?

  They get to learn where you put the same damn commands we had before,
  accessed in the same way they were accessed before, with just a new =
icon and
  a new location? They certainly don't take up less space, they aren't =
more
  functional, they are however part of a new licensable design..

  Sounds to me like this benefits Microsoft, not the users.

  Ok so I found where to turn on the old File/Edit/View menu bar, where =
is the=20
  off switch for the new menu bar? OMG there is no off switch for it you =
say,=20
  even though it's the exact same commands as on the old menu bar I was =
able=20
  to enable. Now why would there not be an off switch for this menu bar, =
all=20
  the others have one..

  Come on Rich, there isn't anyone here who can't see what's really =
going on.

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:4593052b$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     When you say "work the way you work" you sound like you are really =
saying
  "work the way you are accustomed regardless of potential =
improvements".  I
  can understand if you claim that you are more comfortable when there =
are no
  changes.  That is not an argument that no change is good.

     In the case of IE7 its not as if the menus are gone.  They were =
just
  replaced with Home, Print, Page, Tools, and Help and moved to make =
more
  space for the content.

  Rich


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   How does
IE changing the =
menus prevent=20
competition?
 
   Why do
you claim it =
doesn't make=20
things better?  It saves space allowing for more of the web page to = be=20
displayed.  The new menus are simpler and=20
better organized.   Just because change means
you are = exposed to=20
something to which you are not accustomed doesn't mean it isn't for = the=20
better?
 
   Are you
really so change=20
adverse?  You keep using cars as an example so let's use =
them.  What=20
do you do with the tens or hundreds of things that differ from model to = model=20
and year to year such as the location and use of controls for = headlights,=20
windshield wipers, gas cap, trunk, radio, heating, air conditioning, CD = players,=20
glove box, cup holders, seats, windows, locks, etc.  You get
the=20 idea.  If you can deal with any of this I am shocked that
you have = so much=20
difficulty with the small change in the menus.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:45934a36$1{at}w3.nls.net...I=20
  like change when it makes things better, I don't like changewhen =
it's=20
  simply to prevent competition and doesn't make things better.There =
is a=20
  world full of people who know how to use File/Edit/View, so whatdo =
they=20
  get out of this change?They get to learn where you put the =
same damn=20
  commands we had before,accessed in the same way they were accessed =
before,=20
  with just a new icon anda new location? They certainly don't take =
up less=20
  space, they aren't morefunctional, they are however part of a new=20
  licensable design..Sounds to me like this benefits Microsoft, =
not the=20
  users.Ok so I found where to turn on the old File/Edit/View =
menu bar,=20
  where is the off switch for the new menu bar? OMG there is no off =
switch=20
  for it you say, even though it's the exact same commands as on the =
old=20
  menu bar I was able to enable. Now why would there not be an off =
switch=20
  for this menu bar, all the others have
one..Come on Rich, =
there=20
  isn't anyone here who can't see what's really going=20
  on.Geo."Rich"
<{at}> wrote in message news:4593052b$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
  =20
  When you say "work the way you work" you sound like you are really=20
  saying"work the way you are accustomed regardless of potential=20
  improvements".  Ican understand if you claim that you are =
more=20
  comfortable when there are nochanges.  That is not an =
argument that=20
  no change is good.   In the case of
IE7 its not as =
if the=20
  menus are gone.  They were justreplaced with Home, Print, =
Page,=20
  Tools, and Help and moved to make morespace for the=20
 
content.Rich

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