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to: Paul Edwards
from: Frank Malcolm
date: 1994-12-02 20:00:04
subject: bad netmail

Hi, Paul.

PE> PE>> Hi Frank.  You sent 4 netmail messages, but you failed to put a
PE> PE>> "To: xxx" in front of them, so they all
defaulted to garbage,

PE> FM> So what were the 4 messages, and where are they now?

PE>Make that 3 messages, and I see you have resent them correctly

Yeah, figured out which ones they were. Funny thing is, as you know I
put all my outgoing messages with the incoming ones in tenmin.pkt.
Something in the tinypoint/olx combination changes the To: in netmail to
From: . For these ones, it added a From: line, with
garbage - From: 5966:2121/0.24 At least the point was correct!

PE>this time.  As for where they go, I really don't know.  They
PE>were destined for Zone 53, and I don't know if my system sends
PE>them to Dave Hatch or not.  And if it does, I don't know what
PE>he does with them.  He seems to pass things on just like I do.
PE>Sometimes someone is running some software which rejects
PE>messages like that, but otherwise, I really don't know.

PE> FM> Why did they default to garbage - don't tell me, another bloody bug
PE> FM> somewhere along the line.

PE>What default would you like?  I'm going to change it to the
PE>user's own address.  There is no default at the moment, so
PE>you just get uninitialized variables, which seem to tend to
PE>be 53!

That sounds like a good default. Other systems I use actually send you a
message with something like "The following could not be delivered due
to..." and then append the original message.

PE> PE>> and none of them will get very far at all.  I will modify
PE> PE>> QWK2PKT soon so that it defaults to your own address, so you
PE> PE>> can amuse yourself by sending mail to yourself.  BTW, if you
PE> PE>> ran a proper point system you wouldn't need to stuff around
PE> PE>> like this.  FREQ MINPOINT.* and take it from there.  It's a
PE> PE>> FAR better way to do things.  BFN.  Paul.

Every time I freq MINPOINT.* I get MYSYS1.TXT. That's all, just that
file.

PE> FM> Well why the fuck wasn't I told about this in the first place? *I*
PE>don't
PE> FM> have time to be stuffing around installing new bits of software, and
PE> FM> understanding their bugs & quirks (= bugs), all the time.
I just want
PE>a
PE> FM> stable system that will send messages to people and get their replies.

PE>If you want a stable system, you should follow MINPOINT **TO**

OK.

PE>**THE** **LETTER**.  If you touch a single thing thinking "I
PE>know better than this Paul Edwards dickhead", you will be up
PE>shit creek real quick.  A proper point uses much more stable

OK, OK!

PE>software than the cobbled-together C programs and Telix scripts
PE>that you are now running.  As to why I didn't tell you - you
PE>didn't ask.  The first thing I knew about it was Brenton
PE>ringing me up asking what your point number was going to be and
PE>when will it be ready!  :-)  As to why Brenton + co use this
PE>crappy software instead of far superior software specifically
PE>designed for email, you'll have to ask them.  I had MINPOINT
PE>long before TinyPoint, and the others will vouch that I did
PE>everything I could to get them to switch to it from their
PE>brain-dead QWK readers.  If you're running OS/2, then get

OK, I'd never heard of it. Brenton was responding to my plea to get me
going as a point real quick, because AvTech had just been deleted from
my (then) regular board. And I had seen posts from you in the past
suggesting that people freq tinypoint, never any mention of minpoint.

PE>MINPOS2.* instead.  BFN.  Paul.

I don't. :-)

Regards, FIM.

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