From: "Rich" 

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   The ribbon is a great improvement for discoverability and ease of =
access of features.  I don't think that is the issue with the apps we =
have been discussing.  For them removing or hiding menus is for =
simplicity.  The features people commonly use are accessed by other =
means.

Rich

  "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:45930f31{at}w3.nls.net...
  Since Microsoft wishes to freely license and actively promote  their =
ribbon paradigm to all applications that don't compete with Office it =
seems to me that Microsoft is attempting to change the toolbar/menu for =
applications which is part of this discussion 
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:45930444$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       This discussion has nothing to do with the ribbon as we are not =
discussing Office.

    Rich
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discoverability and ease of access of features.  I don't think
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issue with the apps we have been discussing.  For them removing or
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menus is for simplicity.  The features people commonly use are =
accessed by=20
other means.
 
Rich
 

  "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.commailto:gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com">gauszka{at}dontspamhotmail.com
A>>=20
  wrote in message news:45930f31{at}w3.nls.net...
  Since Microsoft wishes to freely =
license and=20
  actively promote  their ribbon paradigm to all applications that =
don't=20
  compete with Office it seems to me that Microsoft is attempting to =
change the=20
  toolbar/menu for applications which is part of this=20
  discussion <ribbons suck>
  

    "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:45930444$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       This
discussion has =
nothing to do=20
    with the ribbon as we are not discussing Office.
     
    Rich

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