*** Quoting Jeff Smith from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***

 CS> Well, we have to submit articles before we can bemoan the lack of
 CS> them.


JS>      That is true and I blame us all for not submitting more. Can't bl
JS> the editor when articles are being submitted.

True.  None of us have done our part on that.  I used to do so with one a
month ¨or close to that, but havent in some time.  Now i face a quandry.

I face a difficult post and a response, and a desire in my own heart to not
use ¨and abuse fidonews.  Fidonews is more than the current holder of the
editor ¨(though I count him as a friend even if many of you do not). 
Fidonews is ¨mythic in my world.  I posted my first note there with
trepidation because I ¨didnt feel 'mythic enough' to be allowed in those
hallowed spaces.

Times have changed but my attitude is still to have respect for the idea,
if ¨not every issue published.

I will reply with the respect my heart has for the fidonews.

JS>      It's not so much that the editor doesn't post articles from other
JS> zones. At least I haven't seen a problem there. My point was that if y
JS> are from a zone other that Z2 what you have to say is rejected out of
JS> hand. At least that has been my experience. It has been plainly stated
JS> in the Fidonews echo that things are done the Z2 way. If people don't
JS> like it then leave or start their own Fidonews and echo. IMO that isn'
JS> a solution but just another way to further divide Fidonet.

Fidonet now has a thought pattern of Z2 is bigger. If Z1 did that when they
¨were bigger, it was not as obvious.  It may have held sway, but was not
the ¨systematic 'your zone vs mine' that we have seen in the past 3 years
grow.

People have polarized and it's very obvious from outside the 2 zones.



JS>      I submitted an article and Michiel was given a copy or made privy
JS> to the article so he could reply in the same edition of Fidonews. Bjor
JS> and Michiel of course deny this. The reply by Michiel isn't what bothe
JS> me. It was the special privileges that Bjorn seemed to be showing his
JS> friends over everyone else.

Well, I am not sure.  I think if Bjorn did such, he would have done same
for ¨me.  Fortunately he did not and will get a better reply less rushed
.

Consider this.  Michiel posted one note. I asked a question. I got a reply.
I ¨got a Fnews article apparently from that.  I postd here not having seen
it, but ¨in ways that address most of it.  Did I read his article?  No.  I
just had a ¨feeling what weas there and addressed things as they came up.

Could your situiation be like that?  Possible?  I do not know, only you would ¨know.

 JS>> they will listen to what you have to say.

 CS> Thats been a bit of a problem perhaps, for all of us.

Hehe lets see.
                                       xxcarol

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