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to: John Beamish
from: Rich
date: 2006-12-27 11:55:42
subject: Re: File/Edit/View

From: "Rich" 

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   Game vs. File doesn't matter as there is no Edit or View.  What =
matters is that some of these apps have no menus and some of them other =
menus.  It is not uncommon for non-document based applications in =
particular not to use the File/Edit/View paradigm.

Rich

  "John Beamish"  wrote in message =
news:op.tk75vjufm6tn4t{at}dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com...
  You might also have quoted Ralph Waldo Emerson:  a foolish consistency =
is =20
  the hobgobblin of little minds!  (Not that I would necessarily agree =
with =20
  you in this case.)

  Along with Solitare there is, btw, no File/Edit/View in Hearts.  OTOH =
... =20
  Spider has (as do Hearts and Solitaire) a "Game" menu option and in =
Spider =20
  one of the Game menu items is "Save this game..." so a =
counter-argument =20
  could be made that while Spider doesn't have "File", the
"Save..." =
option =20
  appears under a menu item that should have been named "File". 
"File", =
=20
  almost invariably, has always had "new" and "Exit"
(you'll find both =
those =20
  under "Game").  Spider also has "undo" (under
"Game") while Word has =20
  "undo" under "Edit".

  IOW, I think this is one of those cases where the consistency isn't =20
  foolish and, in the broader context, software is the better for it.

  On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:08:43 -0500, Rich  wrote:

  >    Solitare.  MSN Messenger.  Windows Media Player.  Yahoo! =
Messenger.  =20
  > AOL Instant Messenger.  That's five.
  >
  > Rich
  >
  >   "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:4591cdd1{at}w3.nls.net...
  >   "Rich"  wrote in message news:45900382{at}w3.nls.net...
  >
  >   >> Every program on earth does not have File Edit View but that is =
=20
  > besides
  >   >> the point.
  >
  >   Name one. Name one popular program on Mac, Linux, or Windows that  =

  > doesn't
  >   have File/Edit/View.
  >
  >   Geo.

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   Game vs.
File doesn't =
matter as there=20
is no Edit or View.  What matters is that some of these
apps = have no=20
menus and some of them other menus.  It is not uncommon for =
non-document=20
based applications in particular not to use the File/Edit/View=20
paradigm.
 
Rich
 

  "John Beamish" <JLBeamish{at}rogers.com>">mailto:JLBeamish{at}rogers.com">JLBeamish{at}rogers.com>
=
wrote in=20
  message news:op.tk75vjufm6tn4t{at}dellblack.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com..=
.You=20
  might also have quoted Ralph Waldo Emerson:  a foolish =
consistency=20
  is  the hobgobblin of little minds!  (Not
that I would=20
  necessarily agree with  you in this
case.)Along with =
Solitare=20
  there is, btw, no File/Edit/View in Hearts.  OTOH ...  =
Spider=20
  has (as do Hearts and Solitaire) a "Game" menu option and in =
Spider =20
  one of the Game menu items is "Save this game..." so a=20
  counter-argument  could be made that while Spider doesn't =
have=20
  "File", the "Save..." option 
appears under a menu item that =
should=20
  have been named "File".  "File", 
almost invariably, has =
always=20
  had "new" and "Exit" (you'll find both
those  under =
"Game"). =20
  Spider also has "undo" (under "Game") while Word
has  "undo" =
under=20
  "Edit".IOW, I think this is one of those
cases where the =
consistency=20
  isn't  foolish and, in the broader context, software is the =
better=20
  for it.On Tue, 26 Dec 2006 22:08:43 -0500, Rich =20
  wrote:>   
Solitare.  MSN =
Messenger. =20
  Windows Media Player.  Yahoo! Messenger.  
> AOL =
Instant=20
  Messenger.  That's five.>> =
Rich>>  =20
  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
=
wrote in=20
  message news:4591cdd1{at}w3.nls.net...>=
  =20
  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:45900382{at}w3.nls.net...>=
>  =20
  >> Every program on earth does not have File Edit View but that =
is =20
  > besides>  
>> the=20
  point.>>   Name one.
Name one popular program =
on Mac,=20
  Linux, or Windows that  >
doesn't>   have =

  File/Edit/View.>>   =
Geo.

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