From: "Rich" 

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   You don't want to use the documented way because you would rather =
imagine that your random flailing will accomplish the same thing =
"better" where "better" really means different,
untested, and probably = incomplete.

   You are free to make a mess.  You just have to understand that you =
are making a mess and if anything breaks it has a good chance of being =
because of the mess you made.  As for your rant on standard door =
mounting, it is you that is ignoring the standard and just trying to rip =
the door right off the hinges claiming a fear that the door might grow =
back otherwise.

Rich

  "Geo."  wrote in message
news:4592df2d{at}w3.nls.net...
  Come on Rich, I don't want to turn the thing off as described in the=20
  security center, that method still has windows update downloading =
patches=20
  for it and if I know MS it will get automatically re-enabled at some =
point.=20
  I want it off my computer. I disabled it with no problem, disabled the =

  service, found out what was causing the popup on boot and ripped that =
out=20
  and it's not "messy" however in exploring I found you can't easily =
uninstall=20
  defender and I think that's sad but something the folks here should =
know.

  As for making a mess, it's my computer isn't it? I'm not renting, I =
bought=20
  the house. Just because the builder decided he wanted to put cheap=20
  anti-sheep door with his company logo on it in my living room doesn't =
mean I=20
  have to accept that. It's my right to bitch when I find out they =
didn't use=20
  standard construction methods and designed the door so I can't easily=20
  replace it with a better quality sheep friendly door. The pins in the =
hinges=20
  are not removable, the hinges are riveted to the frame and you keep =
telling=20
  me to read the section about propping the door open when I'm trying to =

  remove the door.

  Geo.

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:4591ef0d$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     I read your reference to uninstall.  So?  You just described your =
random=20
  flailing trying to disable it.  If you had a brain you might consider=20
  reading the help topic and following the instructions.  You are just =
making=20
  a mess doing random things you don't understand.

  Rich

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   You don't
want to use the =
documented=20
way because you would rather imagine that your random flailing will = accomplish=20
the same thing "better" where "better" really means
different, untested, = and=20
probably incomplete.
 
   You are
free to make a =
mess.  You=20
just have to understand that you are making a mess and if anything = breaks it has=20
a good chance of being because of the mess you made.  As for your
= rant on=20
standard door mounting, it is you that is ignoring the standard and just = trying=20
to rip the door right off the hinges claiming a fear that the door might = grow=20
back otherwise.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:4592df2d{at}w3.nls.net...Co=
me on=20
  Rich, I don't want to turn the thing off as described in the =
security=20
  center, that method still has windows update downloading patches =
for it=20
  and if I know MS it will get automatically re-enabled at some point. =
I=20
  want it off my computer. I disabled it with no problem, disabled the=20
  service, found out what was causing the popup on boot and ripped =
that out=20
  and it's not "messy" however in exploring I found you
can't easily =

  uninstall defender and I think that's sad but something the folks =
here=20
  should know.As for making a mess, it's my computer isn't it? =
I'm not=20
  renting, I bought the house. Just because the builder decided he =
wanted to=20
  put cheap anti-sheep door with his company logo on it in my living =
room=20
  doesn't mean I have to accept that. It's my right to bitch when I =
find out=20
  they didn't use standard construction methods and designed the =
door so I=20
  can't easily replace it with a better quality sheep friendly door. =
The=20
  pins in the hinges are not removable, the hinges are riveted to =
the frame=20
  and you keep telling me to read the section about propping the =
door open=20
  when I'm trying to remove the
door.Geo."Rich" =
<{at}>=20
  wrote in message news:4591ef0d$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
  =20
  I read your reference to uninstall.  So?  You just described =
your=20
  random flailing trying to disable it.  If you had a brain you =
might=20
  consider reading the help topic and following the =
instructions.  You=20
  are just making a mess doing random things you don't=20
 
understand.Rich

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