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echo: coffee_klatsch
to: CAROL SHENKENBERGER
from: bob klahn
date: 2006-12-31 16:26:00
subject: Hows Carina?

CS> *** Quoting bob klahn from a message to CAROL SHENKENBERGER
 CS> ***

 CS>>> antennas are at no more than 20 feet up and quite a few you can r
 CS>>> standing on a chair.

bk>>  People I know afraid of heights can't even do that without fear.
bk>>  One of my co-workers is acrophobic, and sometimes we have to
bk>>  work 40 feet up in a cherry picker.

 CS> Yes, fortunately I have few like that in my shop.
 CS> (Actually, it's not 'my shop' anymore as i shifted jobs but
 CS> I still help out).

 CS>> I get scared on a 40ft ladder just propped against a wall.

bk>>  Ladders propped up against almost anything scare me. But I've
bk>>  seen to much go wrong. You actually have to know how to use a
bk>>  ladder. There are rules. Too many people think you hold onto the
bk>>  side rails. Here's a hint, fellas, you hold onto the rungs.

 CS> Especially on the ones bolted to the ship that go straight
 CS> up.  Yes.

 We have a lot of ladders bolted to things going straight up.
 However, the rungs are always a stronger hold than the sides.

 CS>> I do _not_ get scared suspended upside down from a rope 20
 CS>> feet from a yardarm that is 200ft up or more (but i do

bk>>  Damn! Kinky lady!

 CS> Not really.  It's work related stuff!  And I'm very careful

 I knew that. It wouldn't be funny otherwise.

 CS> the whole time to check my gear and do nothing silly.  I
 CS> did slip once and bash my elbow really bad but I didnt fall.

 If you had fallen head first, 200 feet, to a steel deck, I doubt
 we would be discussing it now.

 CS>> check the rope and attachment first like any sane person
 CS>> would!).

bk>>  And sane is???

 CS> Me >.

 Ok, just checking.

 CS> I am told one is far more likely to get hurt on a 10ft ladder than
 CS> anything else.  It's because it doesnt feel that high so
 CS> people get careless.

 I find that believable.

 CS>> Western ethic is 'have to find a body'.  Eastern isnt quite
 CS>> the same.  They move on, not that there is much choice in
 CS>> the matter.

bk>>  That last is the fact. Millenia of not having a choice in the
bk>>  matter. Tsunami's have that effect. Just watching a TV show on a
bk>>  nature channel about a Tsunami that hit Hawaii about 50 years
bk>>  ago. Hit a school just as the students were assembled in the
bk>>  school yard. There's a marker for the students and adults who
bk>>  were never found.

 CS> Thats sad.  I hadnt heard of it before.

 I once had breakfast in Hilo Hawaii, at a little diner, that had
 markings up the windows showing the depth of various tsunamis.
 That was 1969.

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn{at}sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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