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*** Quoting Bob Ackley from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***

 CS> When we have alot of work, the guys who have no head for heights
 CS> (oddly in my  experience, it's always been guys with that problem,
 CS> never women) take the  antennas after we dismount them and refurbish
 CS> them.

BA> I get very nervous on a ladder when I'm more than about ten feet up.
BA> enough, when I was flying in EC-47s (www.ec47.com) I could stand just
BA> inside the open paratroop door and watch the scenery go by 5,000 or mo
BA> feet straight down and it didn't bother me (and not wearing a chute, e

BA> I'm going to have a major problem next summer because I have to repain
BA> (scrape/wire brush, prime, paint) my  22x40 foot 2 story house.  The t
BA> the walls outside is about 25 feet above ground - and 30 feet to the p
BA> one end.  It's not going to be fun, but it *has* to be done.

Grin, perhaps the one felt 'unreal' and the other real?  I get nervous on 
ladders but once I have a tether on my ass (grin) I feel fine.

Here's one odd factor I have noticed but even though I *think* it's related, I 
am not really sure.  Sample too small.  Every one of the women who I've asked, 
took gym classes that did lots of work on balance bars and the balance beam and

self report they were 'pretty good at it, better than average'.  All of us 
think of ourselves as having a good sense of balance either naturally, or 
developed during those classes (normally given in girls gym classes in 7th or 
8th grade but may be 9th).

When I was on the Fort McHenry, I asked the guys on that too and the ones who 
were not bothered by heights, mostly had had classes that did the dual balance 
bar training and self report that they felt they were 'pretty good at it for a 
guy' (girls at that age are from what I recall, normally better and boys often 
do not get the single balance bar training at all or if so, only learn to walk 
on it, not do summersalts or cartwheels which the girls normally do get).

On the single balance beam, this is partly the hip structure differences 
between men and women, or so I recall being told.  It's literally easier for 
girls than boys.  On the uneven bars (balance bar sets), boys had the advantage

un upper body strenght but the center of balance made some moves very hard for 
them (yours is in your chest, mine amid hips) and well, umm, nature designed 
you to make some of the moves the girls did kinda hard for you (grin).

Could that early, seemingly useless although fun exercise, have given a hidden 
benefit?  One not anticipated but there nonetheless?  I lead to yes but my 
sample is too small to be sure.

The only other thing I can add, is that of the guys who have no head for 
heights, they either didnt have those classes, or felt they were not good at 
them (some were afraid of heights the whole time so that would have made them 
bad at it which clouds the issue).

BA> I'm going to have a major problem next summer because I have to repain
BA> (scrape/wire brush, prime, paint) my  22x40 foot 2 story house.  The t
BA> the walls outside is about 25 feet above ground - and 30 feet to the p
BA> one end.  It's not going to be fun, but it *has* to be done.

I know the feeling.  That kind of ladder is not what I do and i dont think I'd 
enjoy it either.  I'd want a clawhammer over the roof and under the eaves on 
the other side with a rope then around my waist .
                                       xxcarol

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