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echo: locsysop
to: Paul Edwards
from: Rod Speed
date: 1994-11-14 08:18:40
subject: remap

FM> As a further comment, why have you done so? I was reading in another
FM> place just today that some BBSs (or some part of the whole mail
FM> routing structure - it wasn't clear what was being discussed) *don't*
FM> allow you to send to the point address - you must send to the boss.

PE> I haven't heard that one before.

Its true anyway.

PE> I doubt that there's any BBS where if you send mail to a point,
PE> it doesn't get there, but if you had sent it to the boss, it would.

Thats not what is being discussed. What is being discussed is the
situation where you cannot specify a point address but you can specify
the boss address. Hardly surprising that that happens when the point
system was a later addition.

PE> Any software that doesn't recognize points would simply ignore
PE> the TOPT kludge.

Says nothing useful about whether it allows the point address to be
specified in the first place as the destination for the message tho.
THATs what we are actually talking about.

FM> Makes it hard to remember which requires what, and if there's
FM> no/minimal administrative overhead, why not do it? As Rod Speed
FM> said, it's the fail-safe option.

PE> It's more a case of I don't like adding them in.

So whats the big deal about automating the addition of a new point ?
With that included.

PE> Dave Hatch doesn't put in a remap for "Paul Edwards" to
send it to me.

Thats got absolutely nothing to do with what we are discussing. The Fido
system started with just node addresses. Points came later. Its hardly
surprising if there are still some situations where the newer point
address isnt always handled and the boss address is required instead.

PE> I think it's the wrong thing to do, that's what addresses are for.

Yes, but thats got nothing to do with what we are discussing, the fact
that point addressing came later, after node addresses.

PE> I would be happy to write a utility that did a scan of the BBS
PE> netmail area and printed out a list of all messages that weren't
PE> routed though.

Whats the point of that instead of automating the mapping when a new
point is added ? The remap then works without human intervention
forever. Anything else is worse.

It should a quite trivial matter to just take your point list and auto
produce the remap list from that. Presumably a few line Awk can do it.

PE> I have temporarily put the Remaps back in, because of other reasons.

I cant see any good reason to not have them forever myself.

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