rf> Wow!  That's some heavy shit!  Stand still while I take a
 rf> deep breath
 rf> and adjust the crosshairs!
 rf>                                    BANG!
 rf>                                 YOU'RE DEAD!
 rf> Just joking!  (Did you have a heart attack ?)
Not really.  You know I'm right, and I know you're big enough not to take 
umbrage at constructive criticism, even if it's a bit up close and personal.
 rf> > The goalposts ARE in the wrong place if the losing team is allowed to
 rf> > kick a winning goal in the car park!
 rf> At least the goalpoasts are stationary.  This gives other
 rf> teams the
 rf> chance to play the same way ... but IMO it would be a Bad
 rf> Thing if AVP
 rf> sacrificed overall detection just to get Wild List
 rf> certification.
Wouldn't the smart thing be for AVP's investigative team to put extra effort 
into getting the Wild List cert AND keeping up the overall detection ?
 rf> Yeah ... I've seen it.  You don't really want me to turn
 rf> this echo into
 rf> an a.c.v clone, do you ?
SHIT NO!
 rf> IMO many AV companies would go under if product tests were
 rf> conducted by
 rf> true independents on a level playing field and customers
 rf> had access to
 rf> the _genuine_ performance figures.  There are some abysmal
 rf> products out
 rf> there being kept afloat by their shonky "100% detection"
 rf> ads ... some of
 rf> them based on magazine tests on just a few lousy viruses.
I wholeheartedly agree, but I'll go even further.  If you choose your scanner 
even based on the Wild List Test, you're fucked in the head!  For instance, 
ESafe Protect detects 99.8% of the Wild List, so you would assume from this 
figure that it's one of the world's best scanners, but it shows up as weak as 
piss in the real world, detecting only 52% of the Secure Computing full 
collection.
The Wild List Test started life as a reputable guideline, but it has been 
massaged with snake oil by "big in hype" and "small in detection" anti-virus 
companies for so long that it has lost all its credibility.
LuKE
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