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echo: adhd
to: STEVEN GODBE
from: BOB MOYLAN
date: 1997-07-12 00:35:00
subject: books

Steven Godbe (On 08 Jul 97) was overheard pontificating to MARK PROBERT
 MP> I wonder what you real agenda is.
 I read "Dr. Dot's" note and also responded to "Dr. Dot" questioning
 the way she presented herself and what she had to say before I read
 Mark's response. Those of us who live with ADHD/ADD day in and day
 out, either as parents of or those who have ADHD/ADD, have seen and
 heard all manner of nonsense from all manner of people.  Many of
 those have presented themselves as a doctor of this or that with the
 mistaken belief that the title cloaks them in a mantle of
 authority and lesser folk are somehow required to take what they say
 as something akin to holy writ.  While typing my response I was
 thinking the same thing that Mark wrote in his response.
 SG> She's a very classy lady, a person I'm glad to claim as a friend,
 SG> a person generous of herself and her education and experience to a
 SG> fault,
 None of which lends any credibility to one who touts Breggin as an
 authority.
 SG> and one I've not known to be anything less than praise-worthy.
 That's all well and good but she is a total unknown to me, Mark, and
 at least one other who responded to her.
 SG> Mark, you really ought to stop and smell the roses sometime, and you
 SG> ought to work very hard on that huge chip on your shoulders while
 SG> you're at it.
 You obviously don't know from where he speaks.  Your comment above is
 nothing less than a personal attack...what's the reason for that?
 SG> You know, a response like yours validates much of what she had to say,
 The content of your post similarly invalidates all of what she had to
 say.  Can the "doc" not speak for herself?
 SG> although I by no means would have read her posting to be directed
 SG> at any person in particular.  It was deliberately non-specific out of
 SG> consideration for the feelings of echo participants.
 I didn't take it as directed at any specific individual, and while I
 hesitate to speak for Mark (he is more than capable of doing so for
 himself) I don't consider that his response was an attack on her.
 I'm curious to know how YOU are so much aware of what the good doctor
 was thinking and what she was taking into consideration.
 SG> Why do you suppose you chose to interpret it as a personal attack
 SG> and part of some personal 'agenda' instead of what it was,
 See above re "personal attack".  We've seen many come into this and
 similar echos/newsgroups with personal agendas ... once burned twice
 shy...
 SG> a heart-felt note of sympathy for those she felt were in harm's
 SG> way,
 I personally don't think that anyone who comes into this echo and
 throws Breggin's name out, as if he were the end word on ADHD/ADD,
 has much consideration or sympathy for the participants.
 SG> and a brief recommended reading list for any who might care for
 SG> one?
 Recommended reading lists are always welcome...
 SG> You, Mr. Probert, have given new validity to the cliche', "no good
 SG> deed goes unpunished."
 You are saying then that it's quite alright for "Dr. Dot" to advance
 her beliefs and thinking on an issue but that she shouldn't be
 questioned on them?
 Not in this echo Mr. Godbe .... everything is questioned especially
 when a known anti-medication 'there's no such thing as ADHD'
 _authority_ is mentioned.
... Your Sacred cow is my next Big Mac!
--- PPoint 2.03
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