-=> On 04-20-05  17:25,  Peter Knapper <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: New Z6C <=-

 PK> I disagree. As an RC I only ever saw ONE proposal put forward for us

   The first proposal was a number of months before the drafts on the
   second one started.  It was sent to the RCs, I think at the time that
   Bj”rn became editor, by the then outgoing Fidonews editor.  That
   would have been perhaps as much as two years before the proposal you
   are talking about finally came to a vote.

 DS>    It died with no response from anyone.

 PK> Not according to those counting the votes and what I observed.

  My point is that the first proposal did not come to a vote, and died a
  silent death with no response from anyone.
 
 PK> woud have deomnstrated that chanig policy was possible, and
 PK> people would then have had a clear direction to take for 
 PK> proposing even more changes. But it was killed dead in its 
 PK> tracks by the second proposed change, the modification to 
 PK> voting requirements. THAT was what killed the change... 
 
 DS>    Perhaps, but that second proposed change did get a lot of people
 DS>    talking and collaborating.   Why it got killed was due to many
 DS>    factors.

 PK> I never saw a "second" proposal, only one was ever put 
 PK> forward to the RC's for voting. If there was a second (or 
 PK> if there was a first that I did not see) then it was not 
 PK> well advertised.

  You are talking about the "second" proposal.  The first was the simple
  one that did nothing more than change the node address for the
  fidonews editor.
 
 PK> Remove items that are contentious from the menu and this
 PK> bird could probably fly...
 
 DS>   The bird will fly iff the RCs collectively want it to fly.

 PK> Rest assured, the RC's I communicated with wanted it to Fly 
 PK> for sure, but ONLY on the first part of the proposal, they 
 PK> would never accept the second part.

  Then get them to a vote and pass the simple change.  It would be
  something, and something is better than nothing.

                        dale (at) min (dot) net
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