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echo: binkd
to: MICHIEL VAN DER VLIST
from: KEES VAN EETEN
date: 2015-02-25 17:18:00
subject: File requesting with bink

Hello Michiel!

25 Feb 15 16:36, you wrote to me:

 MvdV> Binkp - and that is what we are discussing here - only knows two
 MvdV> flavours for the *.?lo files. It does not make any difference between
 MvdV> clo, dlo, ilo and flo. Only hlo is treated different.

 So what.

 MvdV> Puting a req on hold does not make much sense to me, so let the
 MvdV> *.req do
 MvdV> it all by itself.

 The *.req file is a later addition as a method to request files. It is
 independent from the mailers on both sides. Some developers have included
 direct processing of *.req files during the mail session, it is not a
requirement.

 KE>>  The actions of the BSO construct respect connection rules that may
 KE>> not be opportune to BINKD, but are still valid.

 MvdV> I like to look at it from the perspective of someone not loaded with the
 MvdV> prejudice of how it was done in the past.

 If you don't study the past you will make the same mistakes over and again.
 With your statement, you break protocols deliberatly out of deliberate
 ignorance.

 KE>>  For how you want to work, you can use mailboxes, these are not part
 KE>> of BSO.

 MvdV> Ok, so let the option of having a *.req file initiate the connect all by
 MvdV> itself be a similar add-on.

 MvdV> Just a thought... If I were to redesign it from the start, I would
 MvdV> either:

 MvdV> 1) Define the same five flavours for *.req as for *?lo and *.?ut

 MvdV>    .req   =  normal
 MvdV>    .ceq   =  crash
 MvdV>    .ieq   =  immidiate
 MvdV>    .deq   =  direct    ( I do not know how meaningful NOT direct is..)

 It should alway be direct, routed file request are not appreceated.

 MvdV>    .heq   =  hold

 You are building a system in a system, that is not sensible if you develop
 a general addon.

 MvdV> 2) Drop the xxxxyyyy naming requirement for *.req, and have them
 MvdV> listed
 MvdV> in a *.?lo file for sending, just as any other file that is to be send.

 MvdV> As it is, it is an illogical mix of both...

 You are illogically focussed on one mailer, how it should use a general
 addon.

Kees

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