Saturday, 7 June 1997 Jay Hanig wrote to Keith Jillings
 JH> Now that you've mentioned it, I've never spun a Piper single
 JH> either (unless you consider a Tomahawk a real airplane). If Piper
 JH> was unable/unwilling to get it approved for spins, I assume there's
 JH> a good reason for me not to explore that particular aspect of Piper
 JH> aviation unintentionally.
 I think the regular Cherokees and Warriors are cleared for spinning.
 The Arrow isn't, but the Handbook doesn't say why not.   It's a nice
 simple bit:
 2.15 MANEUVER LIMITS
      No acrobatic maneuvers including spins approved.
 I'm pretty sure the club where I learned used to do spin training on
 the oldest, most battered Cherokee -- until the CAA decided training
 spins were killing more people than regular spins ever did, and changed
 the syllabus.   It's now "spin awareness training", designed to make
 the pilot very familiar with what an incipient spin feels like (that's
 UK CAA talk for getting close to the spin).
 Before the Arrow III, I was in a group on a Rockwell Commander (a real
 beauty!).  It has an unusual tail/elevator configuration, and a short
 "couple".   Since nobody in the group had stalled it, never mind spun it,
 I decided I'd like to know what the stall was like.   I went up with a
 friend as safety pilot, cleared,  yanked off the power at 3500 feet
 and held it level with the ball in the middle.
 The gear warning horn went off immediately, of course, then after a LONG
 time the stall warner.   Then the world disappeared!   It dropped the
 right wing so violently I thought we were heading for inverted and/or a
 spin.   It recovered perfectly with about 350 feet of height loss, but
 it scared the umbulla out of me, I can tell you!
 I made a mental note never to stall that beauty again!
 The Arrow III is so docile in the stall it's almost a non-event.
 Greetings from Keith Jillings (2:257/71.10)
.!. If at first you don't succeed, try skydiving ...
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