rf> Maybe I did go a bit overboard with the fairness in this
 rf> instance, but I
 rf> have to tread a fine line.
That's a copout Rod.  You didn't say a word to the guy who was slagging TBAV 
off with bullshit, but you corrected me for posting the facts about AVP's 
test score.  You're treading the line TOO fine, and going from one extreme to 
the other.  You wouldn't have felt the urge to correct me if Scan had been #1 
in the "full collection" test, would you ?  You need to get back to kicking 
the cockheads in the balls, and you need to lighten up on the good guys!
 rf> If I hadn't said something about it, some geek would have
 rf> jumped up and
 rf> down screaming that Solly's "won" and would have accused me
 rf> of letting
 rf> you get away with making it look like AVP had scooped the
 rf> pool for my
 rf> own selfish reasons.
And I would have told him to fuck off and grow a brain!  I didn't "blatantly 
advertise" AVP, I just stated the facts.  You're making a mountain out of a 
molehill.
 rf> > You know as well as I do, and probably better than I do, that AVP
 rf> pisses
 rf> > all over Dr. Solomon from all directions in the real world of virus
 rf> > infection, so why don't you just come out and say so ?  Dr. Solomon
 rf> OWNS
 rf> > Secure Computing, for fuck's sake, and they have no qualms about using
 rf> > snake oil to grease their own program to the top of the list!
 rf> Hmmmmmm ...... SC can't afford to be blatantly biased
 rf> toward Solly ...
 rf> they need to appear squeaky clean to maintain any kind of
 rf> credibility as
 rf> an independent reviewer in the AV industry ... but you're
 rf> not the first
 rf> person who's wondered if the goalposts are in the wrong
 rf> place.  :)
The goalposts ARE in the wrong place if the losing team is allowed to kick a 
winning goal in the car park!
 rf> Yeah ... I remember the Lemming ... it paid for my Ferrari.
You are a feelthy capitalist swine, Gringo!  :-)
 rf> The fact that their licensed
 rf> scanner was rated
 rf> at 100% ITW detection didn't mean much to Acme Widgets when
 rf> they learned
 rf> that the virus which just cost them fifty grand in downtime
 rf> and cleanup
 rf> hasn't been reported often enough to appear in the Wild
 rf> List and that
 rf> their antivirus provider was too busy keeping up his 100%
 rf> ITW detection
 rf> rating to worry about detecting "less important" viruses.
So poor old Acme Widgets is still in the shit, huh ?  :-)
I was cleaning out some old papers and junk last weekend and I found some 
notes from a lecture you gave on Amiga viruses in 1987.  Your theoretical 
victim was Acme Widgets back then too.  What will you do if ever a real 
company starts using the name ?
 rf> I have to be careful not to appear to be using my position
 rf> as moderator
 rf> to advertise/promote my own program here,
Like I said before, I think you've started putting TOO MUCH effort into the 
"fair" thing.  You should spend a few minutes reading how company shills push 
their programs in alt.comp.virus at every slight opportunity, to give 
yourself some balance on the issue.
 rf> but I agree that
 rf> the Wild List
 rf> should not be used as the sole criterion for selecting the
 rf> #1 scanner in
 rf> virus detection tests.
So does Acme Widgets.  :-)
 rf> It doesn't matter which way you cut it, the bottom line is
 rf> that AVP
 rf> out-detected every other scanner in the world ... and
 rf> detecting viruses
 rf> is what it's all about!
NOW you're starting to work your way out of your "fairness" paranoia.  Just 
tell it like it is - AVP is #1, and that's all there is to it!
 rf> Maybe it's time the goalposts were re-sited.
Don't hold your breath.  There's too much money at stake for the back door 
"winners" to even THINK about levelling the playing field.
LuKE
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