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from: Gpatton{at}bayou.Com
date: 2004-12-24 00:19:00
subject: Re: The Mirage of Biblica

lsenders{at}hotmail.com wrote:
> The problem with such a conclusion is that it does not account for
the
> biblical record.  The Church Age is a parenthetical period.  Israel
> does not accept the Kingdom offer of its Messiah.  However, the
promise
> cannot be nulified.  (Heb 6:17-18)  The covenants made is Israel,
> Mosaic excluded, were unconditional.  They labor with "I will" but
> never "if you will" as within the Mosaic.  Also, the covenants were
> national, not individual, in nature.  So for individuals to reject
the
> Messiah at His 1st advent, does not dismiss the national promise let
> alone its fulfillment.  This is part of the Pauline objection in Rom
> 9-11 to the inferred objector at the end of Rom 8.
>
> Yes, indeed, revelation is progressive.  However, the progressive
> nature of revelation does not discount the specificity of the
economic
> aspects within the Eternal Decree of God.
>
> When your view follows "as man better understood God, he better
> understood how God wanted him to act", it dismisses the central
> Protestant doctrine concerning the depravity of man.

If it does, I am not at least disturbed.

>  Especially
> concerning eschatological themes, evolution is not the result of
> man-power, but rather the removal of "mystery."  Dan 12:9.  This
verse
> speaks of dispensational distinction, not evolution.  Man does not
> evolve into "superman" to borrow a philosophic phrase.  Rather, at
the
> moment of eschatological dispensation distinction, "we will be
changed
> in a twinkling of an eye."

Hold it now! I never said anything about man evolving into superman.
That is your idea,  not mine.  It never entered my mind!  You are
letting your imagination run away with itself.

>
> Philosophically and experientially, we are all dispensationist to one
> degree or another.  Thus Paul wrote, "When I was a child, I use to
> speak as a child, think as a child, reason as a child; when I became
a
> man, I did away with childish things."  Our very lives are
> dispensational in character.

Well, what you look at as "dispwnsational" I see as evolution of the
human's understanding of God. We use different terms. No big deal.

> This is part and parcel of the space/time
> continuum and our finite limitations.  [ Here I suggest you read,
> "Dimensions of Time" by Achtner, Junz & Walter]  To look back over
> one's life, he/she can easily distinquish the various dispensations
> within.  Simple ones would include living with parents, college
and/or
> military service, marriage, retirement, loss of one's mate, etc.
Each
> is a dispensation in life.  And as is in micro, so in the macro
economy
> of God's plan for the ages.  For there is no chance behind God.

OK, you use the word "dispensation" where I use the idea of
"evolutionary change in man's understanding of God". Maybe our meanings
are a bit close together.  It is man changing his ideas of God, not God
changing his relationship with man.

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