From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
From Address: anim8rfsk{at}cox.net
Subject: Re: [OT] Awesome and funny Tesla car review (link)

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> > > > > anim8rFSK  wrote:
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> > > > > >  Your Name  wrote:
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> > > > > > > anim8rFSK  wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article
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> > > > > > > >  Your Name
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> > > > > > > > > In article
, Jan Alter
> > > > > > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Delightful.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >     No more oil changes.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I don't know about that review
link, but electric cars still 
> > > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > oil to lubricate the various
moving parts (wheel bearings,
> > etc.) 
> > > > > > > > > as well as in the production
of much of the world's
> > electricity. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Most of it's sealed, but you've got
battery pack coolant, brake
> > > > > > > > fluid, 
> > > > > > > > gearbox oil, windshield wiper
fluid, whatever it uses for 
> > > > > > > > 'freon' 
> > > > > > > > ... 
> > > > > > > > you have to have $600 a year in
service from Tesla where
> > > > > > > > presumably 
> > > > > > > > they'll do all that; of course,
there's not a Tesla dealer 
> > > > > > > > within 
> > > > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > car's driving range of me, so that
would be a problem.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anyone who believes electric
cars are a panacea to the "oil 
> > > > > > > > > crisis" 
> > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > the "green
revolution" is simply a blinkered moron.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Yeah, they've bought into 'tailpipe
emissions' and don't 
> > > > > > > > realize 
> > > > > > > > that 
> > > > > > > > as 
> > > > > > > > much or more pollution is being
generated, just upstream.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Also "downstream" in trying to
get rid of all those extra toxic
> > > > > > > batteries. Plus, since the pile of
batteries inside them will
> > > > > > > expensively need to be replaced fairly
often, most people will
> > > > > > > simply
> > > > > > > upgrade to a newer car (one of the real
reasons behind the push), 
> > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > means then also means extra material to
be disposed of.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Here in New Zealand, they've just
started new electric trains in
> > > > > > > Auckland City (some parts, since not all
the lines are 
> > > > > > > electrified 
> > > > > > > yet)
> > > > > > > and are boasting about how great they
are ... except they have to 
> > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > the old diesel trains around beacuse
when the electricty goes 
> > > > > > > down 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > only way to then move the stupid new
trains is by towing them 
> > > > > > > with a
> > > > > > > real train. :-\
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > LOL
> > > > > 
> > > > > It would be funny if it wasn't tax-payer money
being wasted on buying
> > > > > something like 38 new trains to run on a railway
system that only has
> > > > > two lines and a dead-end city centre station with only four 
> > > > > platforms.
> > > > > Not to mention that they couldn't run the system
they had properly. 
> > > > > :-\
> > > > > 
> > > > > The morons in charge now want to waste piles more
money digging an
> > > > > underground "City Loop" line (including
buying and compensating
> > > > > affected building owners) that comes out of the
dead-end station and
> > > > > goes up under the main city centre street to join
in to the existing
> > > > > line back at the top ... this is after having had
a free bus service
> > > > > running up and down the main street that was under-used.
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah.  And they try desperately to force you to take
the bus to jury 
> > > > duty, 
> > > 
> > > Ahh, Jury Duty. I did that once and it was a complete waste of a week.
> > > The next time I got my boss to write a letter saying I was
> > > indispensable and couldn't go, the next two times I was self-employed
> > > so couldn't go again.
> > 
> > They don't accept those excuses any more here.  The only job that counts 
> > as 'indispensable' is - I swear - court clerk.
> 
> Being self-employed means you are the only one who can do the work, so
> you are literally indispensible.  :-) If they force you to do Jury
> Service, then it could well destroy your business.

Yes.  I've had that discussion with them on many occasions.  Basically 
they blow a raspberry at you.
> 
> Personally I think the jury system is idiotically stupid and plain
> wrong. Judges are trained and paid excessive amounts to be able to pass
> judgement (hence their job title), yet they farm it off to untrained
> members of the public who scum lawyers pick-and-choose to be on the
> jury.   :-\

Yep.  Well, except for the "judges are trained" part.

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