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date: 2004-12-24 00:19:00
subject: Re: Sanctification

Matthew Johnson wrote:

>
> > Yes,
> >sola scriptura for authoritative reference -however, the Christian
> >ethic is rooted in the leading of the Spirit.
>
> But that is actually _inconsistent_ with Scripture. This is why so
many who
> claim to follow "the leading of the Spirit" fall into something like
Quakerism.
>
You again do not remain true to the context.  You press upon your
advocate an extreme which is not held or taught.  If I were to take
your inference above to fruition, then you would have us believe that
scriptures are "naturally" perceived.
>
> >  We no longer live according to the letter of the law.
>
> >  We live according to the Spirit.
>
> So you say, but I do not believe that you actually do this. How can
I, when you
> slander so freely?
>
You confuse slander with encouragement.  Did Christ slander His
accusers when He revealed to all the very nature of their heart.  Did
He do this via His omniscient nature or did He do through careful study
of the human heart?  I really believe in a full application of the
kenosis.  And to what degree we have the same mind of Christ, so we are
to carefully discern the hearts and minds of the breathren that we may
encourage and instruct.  Slander?  No.  That would be a purely worldly
methodology.

> >It is He, and He alone who instructs each personally in the will of
God.
>
> So now you are implying that He is a poor instructor! Great going,
Loren!
>
Here again.  You accuse.  You add nothing to the discussion.  In fact,
you don't discuss at all.  The true implication is that all men are
fallen in nature and therefore distortion of the truth is always a
factor to consider and revisit from time to time in our doctrinal
positions.  Christ alone is the expression of the Godhead.  IMHO, this
will be the case throughout eternity.  Yet it is the Spirit, especially
in the Church Age indwelling, who imparts and instructs Christ's
revelation.  To the degree one is filled and following the leading of
the Spirit, to that degree he is or is not apprehending the Truth.
>
> >As Paul taught in the last chapters of Romans, it is no longer
> >everyone following the strict letter, it is each being led as
> >individuals in their own part according to God's will as called for
in
> >the Decree of God.
>
> Which you are not doing, as long as you not only slander your
interlocutors in
> this NG, but even the saints, accusing them of heresies they NEVER
taught.
>
Negation without documentation or discussion.  "Slander" by whose
standards?  Is there a standard?  If so, how is it applicable?

"For everything created by God is good and nothing is to be rejected,
if it is accepted with gratitude."  1 Tim 4:4

You confuse "slander" with "admonish the unrul, enourage the
fainthearted, help the weak, be patient with all men."  Do you know the
following verse?

"See that no one repays another with evil for evil, but alwys seek
after that which is good for one another and for all men."

I would suggest that the goal of these news groups is:

2 Tim. 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for
teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
2 Tim. 3:17 that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every
good work.

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