GC> Here's something, if not exactly a bug in Max, one should be aware of.
nope.. it's not a bug, as explained below:
 GC> My callers are giving the access level of LIMITED on their first call.
 GC> Recently, while testing something unrelated to this, I downgraded a
 GC> a name to TRANSIENT in order to make some local log-ons. After entering
 GC> the password the line, "NOT A VALID FILE AREA," (or the one similar to
 GC> that) popped up. Here I was trapped. I couldn't get out of this, and no
 GC> matter what file area I selected, the same line kept popping up. After a
 GC> couple of warm boots, with the same results, I upgraded the name to
 GC> LIMITED and the problem went away.
 GC> So, it would appear, one cannot assign an access level below what one
 GC> gives to first time callers.
you cannot set someone's access level below the lowest setting for your file 
areas and message areas. If you need access 10 to get into a file/msg area, 
then someone with acs 0 won't be able to get in any at all. Since the user 
always has to be in a message and file area, if they don't have access to one 
you get stuck. The soulution: make an area that requires acs twit.
Or be really mean - make ALL areas with twit access, and just set the file 
tagging/downloading/etc commands to access 20 or something (mine are set to 
Normal (30) so that limited (un-verified) users can't download - eliminates 
the problem of people making 50 leech accounts). It's like this in all my 
msg/file areas. you can change areas, browse file lists, i think list 
messages, but not read any (not sure on that one tho) and can't 
post/reply/etc to any messages. So you can do everything but useful stuff. 
You can go in to my file areas, and find a file you're looking for, you just 
can't get it =)
You can also browse any menu, tho my system is setup so that you can't play 
door games unless you're Limited and have the D key (given on new account, in 
welcome.mec:
[acs =20][ifkey]D [goto nodoors]
[goto skip][/nodoors]
[keyoff]D
[lightred]You must verify your account!
[cyan]You no longer have access to any of the door games, since you have 
called
too many times without verifying your account. Until you verify, you won't 
have
access to doors, or be able to download any files.
[pause pause pause pause pause pause pause pause enter]
[/skip]
[link]misc\login
That turns off the D key (door game access) after 7 calls (newuser2 is 
displayed first call, rookie.mec is 2-6, welcome is 7 and on).. which is 
about the time that users have made up a nice little character for themselves 
=)
(rookie and newuser2 all link to misc\logon, i got sick of maintaing 3 
different logon procedures. newuser2 has some extra stuff (CBV etc) first, 
but then it links to logon).
I hope that answers your question, and probably will give you (and whoever 
reads it) some ideas on setting up their logon procedure =)
btw, if you're looking for a good call-back verifier, i strongly suggest 
Padlock by Stefan Xenos - an execelent package written completly in MEX. I've 
been using it since version 3.something :), probably 9 or 10 months.
ttyl, greg
--- Maximus/2 3.01
---------------