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From: "Glenn Meadows"
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Event type is Error.
We still have some relic Windows 98 systems running, on some old
"tiny" = Compaq machines, that won't really support Win2000.
How about the dreaded WINS server? On an earlier message, setting up =
HOSTS files would be a pain, as all the machines have been setup as = DHCP,
even though I could take a few hours, and move them all to static. =
Not my idea of a fun weekend day.
--=20
Glenn M.
"Rich" wrote in message news:3e2f9022{at}w3.nls.net...
An error or a warning? Two NICs trying to register the same =
NetBIOS name on the same network would have a conflict. Not all =
conflicts are errors though. I believe that a computer name conflict is =
an error.
If all your clients are Windows 2000 or later I think you can make =
the issue go away by disabling NetBIOS over TCP/IP but then you need to =
have DNS available for name resolution.
Rich
"Glenn Meadows" wrote in message =
news:3e2f7494$1{at}w3.nls.net...
The Domain controller has Dual Nics in it, each with a separate IP =
address.
10.1.1.6, 10.1.1.7 for increased bandwidth/connectivity. As you and =
I have
talked, this is presenting a problem in that there is an error =
showing up in
the System log, in that the server name shows up on both IP =
addresses, and
thinks there are two machines with the same name on the LAN. Anyone =
have a
fix/resolution for that one, or is there some other way to have 2 =
NIC's in
the same machine on the same lan that does not have this error?
--
Glenn M.
"Geo." wrote in message =
news:3e2f5d23{at}w3.nls.net...
> dual homed machine?
>
> Geo.
>
> "Glenn Meadows" wrote in message
> news:3e2f38f5{at}w3.nls.net...
> I like this discussion. Rich, why at certain times in the middle =
of the
> day, I will lose access to browse the domain, BUT, form a command =
prompt,
I
> can do Net View \\server, net use \\server\resource, etc. When =
looking in
> the workgroup, I only see my local machine.
>
> Same question for a Win98 machine. I can select "Log On
Domain", =
provide
> the Domain name (same as other Win98 machines on the Lan), and =
enter a
valid
> user name and password, the Domain is properly filled in, and get =
a "No
> Domain Controller was available" error message. So, I switch to a =
NON
> domain login, using the Domain name as a Workgroup. I get logon =
to the
> local machine, AND network connections that were set to re-connect =
at
logon
> re-connect (I've remapped My Documents to a network folder unique =
for each
> user), but there are NO computers visible in Network Neighborhood. =
Same
> thing though, from a command line, I can access the network =
resources.
When
> using Network Neighborhood, I get "Network unavailable".
>
> I did a full re-install of Win98se today on the current machine =
that's
> giving this problem. Using DHCP, only TCPIP loaded as a protocol, =
and set
> as the Default Protocol.
>
> Very odd.
>
> Any light that can be shed would be appreciated.
>
> TIA
>
> --
> Glenn M.
>
>
> "Rich" wrote in message news:3e2f0900{at}w3.nls.net...
> You don't need or want NetBEUI. If you have no centralized =
name
server
> you should make sure that you have NetBIOS over TCP/IP enabled. =
That's it
> for protocols.
>
> For name resolution, run IPCONFIG /all on both machines and =
check the
> Node Type value. See
> =
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb%3ben-us%3b160177 and
>
=
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prjj_ipa_kop=
f.a
> sp.
>
> The network neighborhood behavior is something else. For =
that you
need
> a browser. See
>
=
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/reskit/net/chptr3.as=
p.
>
> Rich
>
> "Randall Parker" wrote in message
> news:MPG.1898a015bc3404b998c43b{at}news.barkto.com...
> I put the Win2k machine into the same Workgroup name as the NT =
machine
> and
> rebooted. Still no joy.
>
> The guy who usually uses the Win2k machine says he's used it =
with
> network
> neighborhood. But maybe he has it configured with a different =
protocol
> for it?
>
> I went into the Win2k Network and Dial-up Connections, right =
clicked
on
> Local
> Area Connection, chose properties. There are 4 options in the =
list and
> all are
> checked:
> Client for Microsoft Networks
> File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
> 3Com BCAITDI DMI TDI
> Internet Protocol
>
> The "Client for Microsoft Networks" has a properties dialog =
that shows
> only an
> RPC Service tab with "Name service provider" as
"Windows =
Locator". The
> "Network
> address" control is greyed out.
>
> But choosing the checked "File and Printer Sharing for =
Microsoft
> Networks"
> results in the Properties button becoming greyed out. Why is =
that?
>
> Is he lacking NetBEUI protocol on the Win2k machine? Are there
different
> ways
> to configure Network Neighborhood using different underlying
protocols?
>
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:02:28 -0800 esteemed Randall Parker did =
hold
> forth
> thusly:
> > Hello. Long time no see and all that. Been blogging my =
brains out.
> > http://www.futurepundit.com if you want to see what I've =
been up to
as
> a huge
> > use of my recreational time.
> >
> > I have Win2k machine and an NT machine that I've plugged =
into a
hub.
> I see
> > lights on the hub connection and on the NICs. I figure I =
have
> electrical
> > contact at least. Now some dumb questions since its been a =
while
since
> I've
> > done this.
> >
> > 1) Do machines have to be in the same group name to see each =
other?
> > On the Win2k machine I can do a search for a computer by =
name but
> there is
> > no way to tell it to search in a different workgroup name. =
I'm
> guessing that
> > the difference in workgroup names is the cause of the no-see =
no-find
> by the two
> > computers.
> >
> > 2) WHere do you change the workgroup name in Win2k?
> >
> > 3) Can one make a Win2k machine be in two groups at once? If =
so,
how?
> >
> > 4) Is there some other command that is like netstat that =
tells more
> stuff? Or
> > should I be using netstat with some command line option? =
Isn't there
> some
> > command for seeing the NICs and their bindings? I think I've =
learned
> and
> > forgotten that command a half dozen times over the years.
> >
> > 5) Is there a way to know whether a ping command is really =
going out
a
> > particular NIC?
> >
> > 6) Is there a superping command that basically amounts to =
saying
"Send
> this
> > ping out this particular NIC"?
> >
> > 7) Is there a way to verify some machine's ability to even =
respond
to
> a ping in
> > the first place? How can I know if there is no ping response =
that it
> isn't just
> > because one of the machines has pings filtered in its =
firewall
> settings? I have
> > ZoneAlarm on one of them with settings I can't remember =
since its
been
> so long
> > since I messed with it. The other machine (the Win2k =
machine) was
lent
> to me
> > for a project (cool Borland C++ Builder graphics app that =
I'm
writing
> that's
> > fun to write) and I have no idea what its settings are for.
> >
> > 8) Any handy tools for picking apart these sorts of problems =
that I
> ought to be
> > using?
> >
>
>
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Event type is Error.
We still have some relic Windows 98 systems running, on some old =
"tiny"=20
Compaq machines, that won't really support Win2000.
How about the dreaded WINS server? On an earlier message, =
setting up=20
HOSTS files would be a pain, as all the machines have been setup as = DHCP, even=20
though I could take a few hours, and move them all to static. Not
= my idea=20
of a fun weekend day<grin>.
-- Glenn M.
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