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echo: askacop
to: RYAN BAGUEROS
from: RICH WILLBANKS
date: 1998-04-07 00:02:00
subject: Re: working class folks

RB> What is my alternative? As I've said, a social system that
RB> does not have money. 
RB> Where has it worked? Spontaneously, there are a million
RB> examples of people  functioning as a civil society without
RB> money. Historically, I can refer you to  the decentralized
RB> sandinistas, or israeli communes, or chiapas in mexico, or 
RB> spain in the 30's, etc etc. 
Neither of which work w/o money.  The barter system
only works in a local area.  Man learned very early
that there had to be some thing that could be carried a
long distance w/o dying or spoiling but be worth
trading. 
Its hard to trade thirty chickens to the blacksmith for
repairing your signal tree when he already has fifty
chickens.  You'd wind up having to find something he
thinks is worth the labor he put into the tree then try
to trade for it with who ever owned it.  If you
currency is set at two chickens per dollar you could
give him fifteen dollars.  He could take it who ever
had what he wanted and give it to them.  Then when they
wanted thirty chickens they could give it to you.
RB> can get rich off  many more people's labor. NEED will always
RB> be a far better motivator than greed 
RB> anyday - and far more equitable.
Need is what drives greed.  W/o a market (a need) there
is no need to produce something and no way to make
money.
                      Remember:  Freedom isn't Free!
--- timEd-B11
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