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echo: nthelp
to: Rich
from: Geo.
date: 2003-01-20 20:11:44
subject: Re: More fiction, more nonsense

From: "Geo." 

Rich,

I value your knowledge about IE, but I don't see us agreeing on this. Here
is a link to the original writeup

http://lists.insecure.org/lists/bugtraq/2002/Aug/0316.html

In that link just before step one he says it's a combination of several
exploits the one that's used to kick it off is the wimpy exploit of media
player, he even links to it in his post http://www.malware.com/wimpy.html
so we have the exploit author, the guy who discovered wimpy and me saying
it's a media player exploit and you and MS saying it's an IE exploit. What
makes his hack unique is the way in which he uses wimpy to control IE
components.

I think the difference in our viewpoints is because you are coming at it
from the patch side and I'm coming at it from the hack side. You see it as
being patched from IE, I see it as being exploited from Media player.

Geo.

"Rich"  wrote in message news:3e2c354a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
   Actually, it's an IE issue.  There was one IE issue which these folks
reported several distinct paths to the same issue as if they are different
issues.  In any case, if you go back and read this thread you posted a
different issue.  Try to read your own posts.  In any event, both are IE
issues.

Rich

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