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echo: locsysop
to: Paul Edwards
from: Frank Malcolm
date: 1995-02-09 21:13:10
subject: bink delays

Hi, Paul.

PE>  PE>> Why don't you use "zip"?  It's freeware
instead of shareware, it's
PE>  PE>> available on practically every environment you care to name, it
PE>  PE>> comes with complete source code.  The "-9" is
maximal compression,
PE>  PE>> the "-k" is make it PKZIP compatible (which I
think just means
PE>  PE>> uppercase all file names), as it's normally pkzip compatible
PE>  PE>> anyway as far as I can tell.

PE>  FM> OK. What version of PKZIP is it compatible with? I use 1.93 alpha for
PE>  FM> zipping because at one time some BBSs hadn't upgraded past there, and
PE>  FM> 2.04g for unzipping to cater for those who send me stuff. The earlier
PE>  FM> 2.nn versions had *bad* bugs.

PE> It's compatible with 2.04G.

Ta. In the short term I'll use PKZIP, then. Most of my life is buried in
a ZIP file somewhere, and I therefore do a *lot* of testing before
changing archivers. I just don't have the time to do that, so if ZIP is
compatible with 2.04g that's great.

PE>  FM> Is it on your board? Called what? I'm not going to search FILES for
PE> it,
PE>  FM> 'cos when I look for ZIP I get nearly every line .

PE> I have sent you the zip.exe and unzip.exe directly out of my
PE> dos path.  If you want the original archive etc, it's available
PE> here, search for "info-zip".

Thank you. I'm grabbing with this mail run everything which looked
interesting from that search.

PE>  PE>> Yeah, can't hurt.  I checked your call this morning, and
PE>  PE>> unfortunately it is taking a long time for you to send the
PE>  PE>> YOOHOO in the first place.  After my modem returns a CONNECT,
PE>  PE>> it takes 5 seconds before I receive your Yoohoo.  Compared
PE>  PE>> with Brenton, who is taking about 2 seconds.  Bob is taking
PE>  PE>> 6 seconds, and I thought he had the same modem as Brenton.

PE>  FM> I have noticed the delay at this point, too and I dunno why - AFAIK my
PE>  FM> telix script is now exactly as I got it from Brenton (restored after
PE>  FM> those earlier fuckups with multiple sends) except for the directories
PE>  FM> and, now, that delay commented out.

PE> I think it's a problem with the Spirit modem actually.

The Telix dialog box says it's connected, then it takes nearly 3 seconds
before it switches from the dialog box to the display which goes with
sending the Yoohoo. This is the relevant bit...

  if (dial(dEntry,9) <= 0) exittelix(1,1);  // Give up after 9 dial attempts
//  delay_scr(10);                          // wait one second after connecting
                                            // above line removed 6/2/95. FIM.
  flushbuf();                               //  trash any garbage they sent us
  clear_scr();
  prints("Sending Yoohoo");

... I don't know how to speed that bit up, and as you say there may be a
further delay (possibly related to the Spirit Thunder) between yours
sending the CONNECT and mine recognising it. Any suggestions welcome.

PE>  FM> I'll take out those other 2 delays, and watch it carefully on the next
PE>  FM> transmission to see if I can see where in the script the delay is
PE> coming
PE>  FM> from.

PE> If you are able to tell, you would probably see that the moment it
PE> sends a yoohoo, it gets a reply almost instantaneously?

Nearly a full line before the  (OLX won't let me enter that) on
this 486DX/50.

PE>  FM> I thought you might have heard something in the secret sysop society.
PE>  FM> There has since been a message from someone else which suggests to me
PE>  FM> that it was Bernard himself who just didn't send that November stuff
PE>  FM> until January. Or some system close to him.

PE> I even deselected ZONE3_SYSOP et al.  The only sysop conference
PE> I get is HUB711_800, which is for people who connect directly
PE> to Dave.

OK, just thought (in my original comment in ITUG) that you might have
known something. I (now) really think it's Bernard or a system close to
him.

Regards, FIM.

 * * Self-made man: A horrible example of unskilled labor.
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