From: "Robert Comer" 

I was wondering about that...

- Bob Comer


"Geo."  wrote in message news:3e2fcea0{at}w3.nls.net...
> Typically when worried about traffic levels you segment the network with
one
> NIC on each segment and a router inbetween segments, the router stops the
> broadcasts so the machine never sees itself.
>
> I don't know if there is anything in the KB about dual homed on the same
> segment, perhaps changing the node type would allow you to get around it
> broadcasting it's name but I would think it's still going to confuse other
> machines when it responds on both nics.
>
> To do what you are doing there would have to be a way to bind the nics
> together so they both have the same IP address but even then you have
> different ethernet addresses so it will mess up the arp tables. I never
> really tried that before so I'm just guessing here.
>
> Geo.
>
> "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
> news:3e2f7494$1{at}w3.nls.net...
> > The Domain controller has Dual Nics in it, each with a separate IP
> address.
> > 10.1.1.6, 10.1.1.7 for increased bandwidth/connectivity.  As you and I
> have
> > talked, this is presenting a problem in that there is an error showing
up
> in
> > the System log, in that the server name shows up on both IP addresses,
and
> > thinks there are two machines with the same name on the LAN.  Anyone
have
> a
> > fix/resolution for that one, or is there some other way to have 2 NIC's
in
> > the same machine on the same lan that does not have this error?
> >
> > --
> > Glenn M.
> >
> >
> > "Geo."  wrote in message
news:3e2f5d23{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > dual homed machine?
> > >
> > > Geo.
> > >
> > > "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
> > > news:3e2f38f5{at}w3.nls.net...
> > > I like this discussion.  Rich, why at certain times in the middle of
the
> > > day, I will lose access to browse the domain, BUT, form a command
> prompt,
> > I
> > > can do Net View \\server, net use \\server\resource, etc.  When
looking
> in
> > > the workgroup, I only see my local machine.
> > >
> > > Same question for a Win98 machine.  I can select "Log
On Domain",
> provide
> > > the Domain name (same as other Win98 machines on the Lan), and enter a
> > valid
> > > user name and password, the Domain is properly filled in, and get a
"No
> > > Domain Controller was available" error message.  So, I
switch to a NON
> > > domain login, using the Domain name as a Workgroup.  I get logon to
the
> > > local machine, AND network connections that were set to re-connect at
> > logon
> > > re-connect (I've remapped My Documents to a network folder unique for
> each
> > > user), but there are NO computers visible in Network Neighborhood.
Same
> > > thing though, from a command line, I can access the network resources.
> > When
> > > using Network Neighborhood, I get "Network unavailable".
> > >
> > > I did a full re-install of Win98se today on the current machine that's
> > > giving this problem.  Using DHCP, only TCPIP loaded as a protocol, and
> set
> > > as the Default Protocol.
> > >
> > > Very odd.
> > >
> > > Any light that can be shed would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > TIA
> > >
> > > --
> > > Glenn M.
> > >
> > >
> > >   "Rich"  wrote in message
news:3e2f0900{at}w3.nls.net...
> > >      You don't need or want NetBEUI.  If you have no centralized name
> > server
> > > you should make sure that you have NetBIOS over TCP/IP enabled.
That's
> it
> > > for protocols.
> > >
> > >      For name resolution, run IPCONFIG /all on both machines and check
> the
> > > Node Type value.  See
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb%3ben-us%3b160177 and
> > >
> >
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prjj_ipa_kopf.a
> > > sp.
> > >
> > >      The network neighborhood behavior is something else.  For that
you
> > need
> > > a browser.  See
> > >
> >
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/reskit/net/chptr3.asp.
> > >
> > >   Rich
> > >
> > >     "Randall Parker" 
wrote in message
> > > news:MPG.1898a015bc3404b998c43b{at}news.barkto.com...
> > >     I put the Win2k machine into the same Workgroup name as the NT
> machine
> > > and
> > >     rebooted. Still no joy.
> > >
> > >     The guy who usually uses the Win2k machine says he's used it with
> > > network
> > >     neighborhood. But maybe he has it configured with a different
> protocol
> > > for it?
> > >
> > >     I went into the Win2k Network and Dial-up Connections, right
clicked
> > on
> > > Local
> > >     Area Connection, chose properties. There are 4 options in the list
> and
> > > all are
> > >     checked:
> > >        Client for Microsoft Networks
> > >        File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
> > >        3Com BCAITDI DMI TDI
> > >        Internet Protocol
> > >
> > >     The "Client for Microsoft Networks" has a
properties dialog that
> shows
> > > only an
> > >     RPC Service tab with "Name service provider"
as "Windows Locator".
> The
> > > "Network
> > >     address" control is greyed out.
> > >
> > >     But choosing the checked "File and Printer Sharing
for Microsoft
> > > Networks"
> > >     results in the Properties button becoming greyed out. Why is that?
> > >
> > >     Is he lacking NetBEUI protocol on the Win2k machine? Are there
> > different
> > > ways
> > >     to configure Network Neighborhood using different underlying
> > protocols?
> > >
> > >     On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:02:28 -0800 esteemed Randall Parker did
hold
> > > forth
> > >     thusly:
> > >     > Hello. Long time no see and all that. Been blogging my brains
out.
> > >     > http://www.futurepundit.com if you want to see what
I've been up
> to
> > as
> > > a huge
> > >     > use of my recreational time.
> > >     >
> > >     > I have  Win2k machine and an NT machine that I've
plugged into a
> > hub.
> > > I see
> > >     > lights on the hub connection and on the NICs. I figure I have
> > > electrical
> > >     > contact at least. Now some dumb questions since its
been a while
> > since
> > > I've
> > >     > done this.
> > >     >
> > >     > 1) Do machines have to be in the same group name to see each
> other?
> > >     >    On the Win2k machine I can do a search for a
computer by name
> but
> > > there is
> > >     > no way to tell it to search in a different
workgroup name. I'm
> > > guessing that
> > >     > the difference in workgroup names is the cause of the no-see
> no-find
> > > by the two
> > >     > computers.
> > >     >
> > >     > 2) WHere do you change the workgroup name in Win2k?
> > >     >
> > >     > 3) Can one make a Win2k machine be in two groups at
once? If so,
> > how?
> > >     >
> > >     > 4) Is there some other command that is like netstat
that tells
> more
> > > stuff? Or
> > >     > should I be using netstat with some command line
option? Isn't
> there
> > > some
> > >     > command for seeing the NICs and their bindings? I think I've
> learned
> > > and
> > >     > forgotten that command a half dozen times over the years.
> > >     >
> > >     > 5) Is there a way to know whether a ping command is
really going
> out
> > a
> > >     > particular NIC?
> > >     >
> > >     > 6) Is there a superping command that basically
amounts to saying
> > "Send
> > > this
> > >     > ping out this particular NIC"?
> > >     >
> > >     > 7) Is there a way to verify some machine's ability to even
respond
> > to
> > > a ping in
> > >     > the first place? How can I know if there is no ping response
that
> it
> > > isn't just
> > >     > because one of the machines has pings filtered in
its firewall
> > > settings? I have
> > >     > ZoneAlarm on one of them with settings I can't remember since
its
> > been
> > > so long
> > >     > since I messed with it. The other machine (the Win2k machine)
was
> > lent
> > > to me
> > >     > for a project (cool Borland C++ Builder graphics app that I'm
> > writing
> > > that's
> > >     > fun to write) and I have no idea what its settings are for.
> > >     >
> > >     > 8) Any handy tools for picking apart these sorts of problems
that
> I
> > > ought to be
> > >     > using?
> > >     >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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