From: John Cuccia 

The machines need to be running a common protocol, probably either TCP/IP
or Netbeui.  If TCP/IP, then they need be configured with IP addresses in
the same subnet.


On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 12:34:01 -0800, Randall Parker  wrote:

>I put the Win2k machine into the same Workgroup name as the NT machine and
>rebooted. Still no joy.
>
>The guy who usually uses the Win2k machine says he's used it with network
>neighborhood. But maybe he has it configured with a different protocol for it?
>
>I went into the Win2k Network and Dial-up Connections, right clicked on Local
>Area Connection, chose properties. There are 4 options in the list and all are
>checked:
>   Client for Microsoft Networks
>   File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks
>   3Com BCAITDI DMI TDI
>   Internet Protocol
>
>The "Client for Microsoft Networks" has a properties dialog
that shows only an
>RPC Service tab with "Name service provider" as "Windows
Locator". The
"Network
>address" control is greyed out.
>
>But choosing the checked "File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft
Networks"
>results in the Properties button becoming greyed out. Why is that?
>
>Is he lacking NetBEUI protocol on the Win2k machine? Are there different ways
>to configure Network Neighborhood using different underlying protocols?
>
>On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 11:02:28 -0800 esteemed Randall Parker did hold forth
>thusly:
>> Hello. Long time no see and all that. Been blogging my brains out.
>> http://www.futurepundit.com if you want to see what I've been up to as a
huge
>> use of my recreational time.
>>
>> I have  Win2k machine and an NT machine that I've plugged into a hub. I see
>> lights on the hub connection and on the NICs. I figure I have electrical
>> contact at least. Now some dumb questions since its been a while since I've
>> done this.
>>
>> 1) Do machines have to be in the same group name to see each other?
>>    On the Win2k machine I can do a search for a computer by name but there
is
>> no way to tell it to search in a different workgroup name. I'm guessing that
>> the difference in workgroup names is the cause of the no-see no-find by the
two
>> computers.
>>
>> 2) WHere do you change the workgroup name in Win2k?
>>
>> 3) Can one make a Win2k machine be in two groups at once? If so, how?
>>
>> 4) Is there some other command that is like netstat that tells more stuff?
Or
>> should I be using netstat with some command line option? Isn't there some
>> command for seeing the NICs and their bindings? I think I've learned and
>> forgotten that command a half dozen times over the years.
>>
>> 5) Is there a way to know whether a ping command is really going out a
>> particular NIC?
>>
>> 6) Is there a superping command that basically amounts to saying
"Send this
>> ping out this particular NIC"?
>>
>> 7) Is there a way to verify some machine's ability to even respond to a ping
in
>> the first place? How can I know if there is no ping response that it isn't
just
>> because one of the machines has pings filtered in its firewall settings? I
have
>> ZoneAlarm on one of them with settings I can't remember since its been so
long
>> since I messed with it. The other machine (the Win2k machine) was lent to me
>> for a project (cool Borland C++ Builder graphics app that I'm writing that's
>> fun to write) and I have no idea what its settings are for.
>>
>> 8) Any handy tools for picking apart these sorts of problems that I ought to
be
>> using?
>>

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