ù Quoting Bob Rudolph from a message to Ryan Bagueros  ù 
BR> I find the USA to be far less onerous than you do.  I'll begin to be 
BR> concerned  when they are successful with a massive gun grab, as 
BR> England has done and  Australia has tried (with a notable and 
BR> laudable lack of success...)
Huh? The _only_ thing that would convince you is a "gun grab" ..? This is the 
only measure of a repressive government? 
BR> Read "Voyage of the Space Beagle" about such a society.  You are 
BR> dealing in an  arrangement that guarantees that EVERYONE will get 
BR> screwed regularly because  there is NO finite value attached to 
BR> anything.
Explain. What does monetary value have to do with anything? More often that 
not, the monetary value associated with something devalues it as something 
more
- like cheap, commercialized religion, or music, or whatever.
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