*** Quoting Bj”rn Felten from a message to Carol Shenkenberger ***

 CS> Has he done something to upset you?

BF>    Even if I know it's bad manners, let me answer that question with a
BF> question: what do you expect from an IC?

Humm, much of what I expect, Ward actually does but my expectations are
other ¨than many.  I expect an IC to help with a Zseg when there is a
problem.  Ward ¨is *excellent* at that.

I also expect an IC to bring to the ZCC any issues that might impact more
thasn ¨their own zone so they can be discussed.  I expect an IC to have
some ¨reasonable level of knowledge of how all 6 zones operate, although I
do not ¨expect total familiar details to the nitty-gritty level.  I expect
an open ¨minded approach to things that are 'not the same as the IC's
zone'.  Ward is ¨middling on this, possibly because Z2 may be middling on
this.  I can not tell.

BF>    For several years Ward had to take all kinds of shit from (mostly)
BF> a handful of grunt Z1 sysops. Eventually this same handful of grunt Z1
BF> sysops staged a coup where they claimed to have replaced Ward as IC wi
BF> Malcolm. And the claimed reason was something Ward had done.

Ward got hassled from many, not all Z1 nodes, and the reasons vary as much
as ¨the circumstances.  Ward overall did pretty good IMHO.  Ward was not
replaced ¨by Z1 however.  That was a ZCC vote with 6 zones in the mix.  The
final ¨probably issue was Ward saying that something like Z2 had so many
more nodes ¨that the Z2C's vote alone, evenb with all 5 others, would win
and ZCC issue on ¨a vote.  That didnt go over well with anyone outside Z2
(and was not universal ¨in Z2).  That Z1C did call for the ZCC vote
however, is true.  That the Z1C did ¨so at the request of some Z1 nodes,
seems to be true.  That didnt mean the ¨other ZC's had to go along with
that.

BF>    So now the coup makers claim we've got a new IC. And this IC has do
BF> absolutely nothing for more than a year. Sure enough, if you want to r
BF> long enough in politics, you should keep as low a profile as possible,
BF> but surely you can agree, that this is not a political arena, but a te
BF> one? And in a technical environment, at least *I* don't think that mai
BF> a low profile has any benefits at all.

This is open to question.  All I can see of Malcolm is he is trying to
balance ¨things and allowing testing of new ideas.

It doesnt bother me that some consider Ward as IC still, but it will not
¨affect me either.  I was not a ZC when the vote happened, but will go with
the ¨collective 6 vote without messing with Ward's head about it.
                                       xxcarol

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