MvdV>> Square?

 MvdV>> Not that either. Policy says the IC should be the one to hold the
 MvdV>> election and collect the votes. That rule was ignored.

 > exactly as it was when ward orchestrated his "election" to the
 > IC position... what say you about that bit of history??

Apples and oranges. Satti was not voted out of office, he resigned.

Cheers, Michiel

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