From: "Robert Comer" 

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Safe, secure, and stable are pretty much universal Rich...

- Bob Comer


  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e3860ed{at}w3.nls.net...
     "For all" is a problem.  You won't find that everyone wants the =
same thing.

  Rich
    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message =
news:3e3833d2{at}w3.nls.net...
    Yes he was, but he was trying to suggest a solution for all. (and =
that's what we need!)

    - Bob Comer


      "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e381f62{at}w3.nls.net...
         George was going on about Slapper at Microsoft.  You can rant =
on other topics if you want but it makes no difference.

         I also gree that George's conclusions are unsupported by his =
premise and argument but since the premise was false, the rest falls = apart anyway.

      Rich

        "Robert Comer"  wrote in message =
news:3e3808c2{at}w3.nls.net...
        I don't think i'd agree with it being a false premise, at least =
for a
        majority of us users out here -- products are on CD and the copy =
protection
        is that activation crap and the product key.

        Anyway, i don't see what he is saying would work either, most =
people don't
        have the bandwidth to be downloading a CD everytime they want to =
do an
        install...

        - Bob Comer


        "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e3805ce$1{at}w3.nls.net...
           From below, that installs are from CD and that the products =
are copy
        protected.  His full rant probably contains more.

        Rich

        "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
        news:3e378a2a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
        What false premise?

        - Bob Comer


        "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e378899$1{at}w3.nls.net...
           The first problem with George's rant is that it is based on a =
false
        premise.

        Rich

        "Antti Kurenniemi"  wrote in =
message
        news:3e3762ee{at}w3.nls.net...
        That really sounds likea a good idea. Unfortunately I think it =
will probably
        never happen :-(


        Antti Kurenniemi

        "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:3e374ea7{at}w3.nls.net...
        > yes I read all about it. It occurs to me that a big part of =
the
        > problem with how they are dealing with this problem is
        > actually related to copy protection. One of the things that
        > causes all these unpatched machines to continuously be
        > available is that people are always doing new
        > installs/re-installs for whatever reasons. They are forced
        > to use the original CD which of course contains unpatched
        > code, then apply service pack and lord knows how many
        > hot fixes.[snip]


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Safe, secure, and stable are pretty =
much universal=20
Rich...
 
- Bob Comer
 
 

  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3e3860ed{at}w3.nls.net...
    
"For all" is a =
problem.  You=20
  won't find that everyone wants the same thing.
   
  Rich
  

    "Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>
= wrote=20
    in message news:3e3833d2{at}w3.nls.net...
    Yes he was, but he was trying to =
suggest a=20
    solution for all. (and that's what we need!)
     
    - Bob Comer
     
     
    

      "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3e381f62{at}w3.nls.net...
        
George was going on =
about=20
      Slapper at Microsoft.  You can rant on other topics if you =
want but=20
      it makes no difference.
       
         I
also gree that =
George's=20
      conclusions are unsupported by his premise and argument but since =
the=20
      premise was false, the rest falls apart anyway.
       
      Rich
       
      
        "Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20
        wrote in message news:3e3808c2{at}w3.nls.net...I
=

        don't think i'd agree with it being a false premise, at least =
for=20
        amajority of us users out here -- products are on CD and the =
copy=20
        protectionis that activation crap and the product=20
        key.Anyway, i don't see what he is saying would work =
either,=20
        most people don'thave the bandwidth to be downloading a CD =
everytime=20
        they want to do aninstall...- Bob =
Comer"Rich"=20
        <{at}> wrote in message news:3e3805ce$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
  =20
        From below, that installs are from CD and that the products are=20
        copyprotected.  His full rant probably contains=20
        more.Rich"Robert
Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20
        wrote in messagenews:3e378a2a$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
What=20
        false premise?- Bob
Comer"Rich" <{at}> =
wrote in=20
        message news:3e378899$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
  =20
        The first problem with George's rant is that it is based on a=20
       
falsepremise.Rich"Antti
Kurenniemi" <Antti_Kurenniemi{at}hotmail.com=">mailto:Antti_Kurenniemi{at}hotmail.com">Antti_Kurenniemi{at}hotmail.com=
>=20
        wrote in messagenews:3e3762ee{at}w3.nls.net...That=
=20
        really sounds likea a good idea. Unfortunately I think it will=20
        probablynever happen :-(Antti =
Kurenniemi"Geo."=20
        <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
=
wrote in=20
        message news:3e374ea7{at}w3.nls.net...>=
=20
        yes I read all about it. It occurs to me that a big part of =
the>=20
        problem with how they are dealing with this problem is> =
actually=20
        related to copy protection. One of the things that> =
causes all=20
        these unpatched machines to continuously be> available is =
that=20
        people are always doing new> installs/re-installs for =
whatever=20
        reasons. They are forced> to use the original CD which of =
course=20
        contains unpatched> code, then apply service pack and =
lord knows=20
        how many> hot=20
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