From: "geo" 

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Joe Barr's server that got compromised wasn't Joe Barr's server, it was =
his ISP's server, they were hosting his website.

Whether or not Joe could secure a web server (either Linux or NT) I've = no idea.

Geo.
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e39fda7$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     Either way, you and I are above the line and Joe Barr is below.

  Rich

    "Geo."  wrote in message =
news:3e39f22f$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    I believe that the easier you make it to stay fully patched the =
lower the
    line can be drawn for the definition of "competent".

    Geo.

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e39ba68$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       If you are arguing that a process involving humans is less than =
perfect,
    I would have no disagreement.  I think the human factor is all the
    difference.  I had no problem because I make the effort to keep my =
systems
    safe.  George claimed that he doesn't get hit by exploits because he =
does
    the same.  Joe Barr is an example of someone that while he talks a =
lot about
    how Windows is horrible and Linux is great did get his Linux system =
rooted
    while George and I running Windows have not.  I believe that what =
this shows
    is that George and I are more competent then Joe Barr.



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Joe Barr's server that got compromised =
wasn't Joe=20
Barr's server, it was his ISP's server, they were hosting his=20
website.
 
Whether or not Joe could secure a web =
server=20
(either Linux or NT) I've no idea.
 
Geo.

  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3e39fda7$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     Either
way, you and I =
are above the=20
  line and Joe Barr is below.
  Rich
   
  
    "Geo." <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20
    wrote in message news:3e39f22f$1{at}w3.nls.net...I=20
    believe that the easier you make it to stay fully patched the lower=20
    theline can be drawn for the definition of=20
   
"competent".Geo."Rich"
<{at}> wrote in message news:3e39ba68$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
  =20
    If you are arguing that a process involving humans is less than=20
    perfect,I would have no disagreement.  I think the human =
factor is=20
    all thedifference.  I had no problem because I make the =
effort to=20
    keep my systemssafe.  George claimed that he doesn't get =
hit by=20
    exploits because he doesthe same.  Joe Barr is an example =
of=20
    someone that while he talks a lot abouthow Windows is horrible =
and Linux=20
    is great did get his Linux system rootedwhile George and I =
running=20
    Windows have not.  I believe that what this showsis that =
George and=20
    I are more competent then Joe=20
Barr.

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