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to: Robert Comer
from: Rich
date: 2003-02-09 23:57:56
subject: Re: The goals of Windows

From: "Rich" 

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   I still have not seen from you a list of all the goals of either of =
these two products.  You can say you provided the goals without actually =
doing so all you want.  It's still hand waving and bullshitting.  Either =
put up or shut up.

Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message =
news:3e473425{at}w3.nls.net...
  I most certainly did.

  >It all comes down to XP being a consumer targeted OS and NT4 was most
  certainly not.

  That's what I said and meant.

  >All you have to offer is that Windows XP Professional has a superset =
of the
  capabilities of Windows NT Workstation 4.0.

  A superset that compromises its usability for my purposes.

  >   Are you even going to try or shall we all accept that you were =
just
  bullshitting?

  Nope, not going to try any more after this, arguing with you is like =
arguing
  with a rabid pit bull. (all bite and no logic.)

  - Bob Comer



  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e472168{at}w3.nls.net...
     You still have failed to state the goal of either Windows XP =
Professional
  or Windows NT Workstation 4.0.  All you have to offer is that Windows =
XP
  Professional has a superset of the capabilities of Windows NT =
Workstation
  4.0.

     Are you even going to try or shall we all accept that you were just
  bullshitting?

  Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
  news:3e471302{at}w3.nls.net...
  Nice dig, but Geo has it partly right, it's what XP is designed to do =
that
  NT4 wasn't -- Product activation, integrated Messenger and WMP (for =
the
  masses, it doesn't mean squat we don't need that at work as a =
vulnerability
  point)  Also XP is somewhat more designed to run games, well, I don't =
need
  that at work and don't need that ability taking up space on my hard =
drives.

  It all comes down to XP being a consumer targeted OS and NT4 was most
  certainly not.

  - Bob Comer


  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e46fccf{at}w3.nls.net...
     I have no doubt that one (only one) goal of Windows XP Home Edition =
was
  to supercede Windows Me on consumer desktops.  Robert though made a =
quite
  broader claim regarding the overall goals and not of this product but
  Windows XP Professional and Windows NT Workstation 4.0.  I'm sure =
Robert
  will clear this up when he tells us all the goals of these two =
products.
  I'm particularly interested in what goals Windows NT Workstation 4.0 =
had
  that Windows XP did not.

  Rich

  "Tony Ingenoso"  wrote in message
  news:3e46ed08{at}w3.nls.net...
  Easy - produce a consumer market acceptable OS so the 9x code base =
could be
  retired.  That there was no corresponding touchy-feely 9x release =
speaks
  volumes.

  W2K was/is perfectly acceptable for the vast majority of business =
uses, but
  didn't have the Mr Rogers neighborhood ambiance of XP to appeal to the
  drooling masses.  With 9x hitting the showers, and apparently no plans =
for a
  strictly business oriented product, a unification product was =
mandatory [I
  don't consider XP pro as being business oriented the way W2K is]
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e46e3cf{at}w3.nls.net...
     Facinating.  Can you spell out these goals clearly?

  Rich


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   I still
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you a list=20
of all the goals of either of these two products.  You can say you
= provided=20
the goals without actually doing so all you want.  It's still hand
= waving=20
and bullshitting.  Either put up or shut up.
 
Rich
 

  "Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>
= wrote in=20
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  purposes.>   Are you even
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try any=20
  more after this, arguing with you is like arguingwith a rabid pit =
bull.=20
  (all bite and no logic.)- Bob
Comer"Rich" =
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  wrote in message news:3e472168{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
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  You still have failed to state the goal of either Windows XP=20
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= wrote in=20
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targeted OS=20
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Comer"Rich"=20
  <{at}> wrote in message news:3e46fccf{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; =20
  I have no doubt that one (only one) goal of Windows XP Home Edition =
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  supercede Windows Me on consumer desktops.  Robert though made a=20
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product=20
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two=20
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Workstation=20
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not.Rich"Tony Ingenoso" =
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t;=20
  wrote in messagenews:3e46ed08{at}w3.nls.net...Easy=
 -=20
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  beretired.  That there was no corresponding touchy-feely 9x =
release=20
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  majority of business uses, butdidn't have the Mr Rogers =
neighborhood=20
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hitting the=20
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product,=20
  a unification product was mandatory [Idon't consider XP pro as =
being=20
  business oriented the way W2K is]"Rich"
<{at}> wrote in message =
news:3e46e3cf{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; =20
  Facinating.  Can you spell out these goals=20
clearly?Rich

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