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Hello LEE!

17 Apr 07 22:30, you wrote to me:

 >>LL> Repeal the 2nd Amendment and ban handguns.  That'll be a start.

 RC>> Guns dont kill people, people do.

 LL> People with guns kill people far more efficiently and effectively
 LL> than people with no guns.

So do drunks behind the wheel of an automobile.

 RC>> You want to cry about how the patriot act and the govt are stomping
 RC>> on civil rights, lets do this:

 RC>> We can ban guns, repeal the 2nd ammendment.. But why, isnt carrying
 RC>> a gun already illegal in cities such as NYC and DC, yet they have
 RC>> many gun related crimes still?

 LL> Gun crimes in England account to less than half of one percent of all
 LL> crimes.  Why is that?  Because people in England are not allowed to
 LL> own guns.  Duh.

Answer the question or move to England.

 RC>> Our law enforcement cant even keep illegal drugs off of the streets
 RC>> and you seem to think they'll be able keep illegal guns off of them
 RC>> should people li you get your way?

 RC>> Lets ban knives, bats, clubs, and a whole slew of other things,
 RC>> they can be used to kill as well.

 LL> Oh sure, there would be a number of knivings and clubbings, etc.  But
 LL> far fewer deaths.  And no deaths due to guns.  Maybe that's why there
 LL> were no Columbines until the latter part of the 20th century.  Duh.

Irrelevant, once you get into the mindset of banning something, other bans
will follow.

We have banned many drugs, yet they still flourish on our streets, you are
kidding yourself if you think that a ban on guns will eliminate them.

DUH!

 RC>> Lets ban booze, how many people are victims of DUI/DWI each year,
 RC>> how many others are hurt by those in drunken rages?

 LL> People who drive while under the influence of alcohol tend to get a
 LL> DUI/DWI.  People who own guns tend to shoot other people in cold
 LL> blood. People who do not drink and drive never get a DUI/DWI.  People
 LL> who do not own guns never shoot people in cold blood.  Duh.

How many people get killed each year because someone else ran over or into
them because that someone was drunk, lets ban booze and then lets ban the
car!!!

People like you have accused the current administration of constitutional
misdeeds, what parts of the constitution do you dislike other than the 2nd
ammendment?

You know darn well, banning guns doesnt translate to eliminating them.

==
Ross
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