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to: Robert Comer
from: Rich
date: 2003-02-10 08:21:46
subject: Re: The goals of Windows

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   As I said, hand waving and bullshitting.

Rich

  "Robert Comer"  wrote in message =
news:3e47b034{at}w3.nls.net...
  I stated the main goal, and that's enough.

  - Bob Comer ,You want a discussion you're going to have to do better.>


    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e47597f{at}w3.nls.net...
       I still have not seen from you a list of all the goals of either =
of these two products.  You can say you provided the goals without =
actually doing so all you want.  It's still hand waving and = bullshitting.
 Either put up or shut up.

    Rich

      "Robert Comer"  wrote in message =
news:3e473425{at}w3.nls.net...
      I most certainly did.

      >It all comes down to XP being a consumer targeted OS and NT4 was =
most
      certainly not.

      That's what I said and meant.

      >All you have to offer is that Windows XP Professional has a =
superset of the
      capabilities of Windows NT Workstation 4.0.

      A superset that compromises its usability for my purposes.

      >   Are you even going to try or shall we all accept that you were =
just
      bullshitting?

      Nope, not going to try any more after this, arguing with you is =
like arguing
      with a rabid pit bull. (all bite and no logic.)

      - Bob Comer



      "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e472168{at}w3.nls.net...
         You still have failed to state the goal of either Windows XP =
Professional
      or Windows NT Workstation 4.0.  All you have to offer is that =
Windows XP
      Professional has a superset of the capabilities of Windows NT =
Workstation
      4.0.

         Are you even going to try or shall we all accept that you were =
just
      bullshitting?

      Rich

      "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
      news:3e471302{at}w3.nls.net...
      Nice dig, but Geo has it partly right, it's what XP is designed to =
do that
      NT4 wasn't -- Product activation, integrated Messenger and WMP =
(for the
      masses, it doesn't mean squat we don't need that at work as a =
vulnerability
      point)  Also XP is somewhat more designed to run games, well, I =
don't need
      that at work and don't need that ability taking up space on my =
hard drives.

      It all comes down to XP being a consumer targeted OS and NT4 was =
most
      certainly not.

      - Bob Comer


      "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e46fccf{at}w3.nls.net...
         I have no doubt that one (only one) goal of Windows XP Home =
Edition was
      to supercede Windows Me on consumer desktops.  Robert though made =
a quite
      broader claim regarding the overall goals and not of this product =
but
      Windows XP Professional and Windows NT Workstation 4.0.  I'm sure =
Robert
      will clear this up when he tells us all the goals of these two =
products.
      I'm particularly interested in what goals Windows NT Workstation =
4.0 had
      that Windows XP did not.

      Rich

      "Tony Ingenoso"  wrote in message
      news:3e46ed08{at}w3.nls.net...
      Easy - produce a consumer market acceptable OS so the 9x code base =
could be
      retired.  That there was no corresponding touchy-feely 9x release =
speaks
      volumes.

      W2K was/is perfectly acceptable for the vast majority of business =
uses, but
      didn't have the Mr Rogers neighborhood ambiance of XP to appeal to =
the
      drooling masses.  With 9x hitting the showers, and apparently no =
plans for a
      strictly business oriented product, a unification product was =
mandatory [I
      don't consider XP pro as being business oriented the way W2K is]
      "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e46e3cf{at}w3.nls.net...
         Facinating.  Can you spell out these goals clearly?

      Rich


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   As I
said, hand waving and =

bullshitting.
 
Rich
 
"Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com> = wrote in=20 message news:3e47b034{at}w3.nls.net... I stated the main goal, and that's=20 enough. - Bob Comer ,You want a discussion = you're going=20 to have to do better.>
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3e47597f{at}w3.nls.net... I still have not seen = from you a=20 list of all the goals of either of these two products. You can = say you=20 provided the goals without actually doing so all you want. = It's still=20 hand waving and bullshitting. Either put up or shut = up. Rich "Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20 wrote in message news:3e473425{at}w3.nls.net...I = most certainly did.>It all comes down to XP being a = consumer=20 targeted OS and NT4 was mostcertainly not.That's what = I said=20 and meant.>All you have to offer is that Windows XP=20 Professional has a superset of thecapabilities of Windows NT=20 Workstation 4.0.A superset that compromises its usability = for my=20 purposes.> Are you even going to try or = shall we=20 all accept that you were justbullshitting?Nope, not = going to=20 try any more after this, arguing with you is like arguingwith = a rabid=20 pit bull. (all bite and no logic.)- Bob=20 Comer"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3e472168{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs= p; =20 You still have failed to state the goal of either Windows XP=20 Professionalor Windows NT Workstation 4.0. All you have = to offer=20 is that Windows XPProfessional has a superset of the = capabilities of=20 Windows NT Workstation4.0. Are you even = going to=20 try or shall we all accept that you were=20 justbullshitting?Rich"Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20 wrote in messagenews:3e471302{at}w3.nls.net...Nice= =20 dig, but Geo has it partly right, it's what XP is designed to do=20 thatNT4 wasn't -- Product activation, integrated Messenger and = WMP=20 (for themasses, it doesn't mean squat we don't need that at = work as a=20 vulnerabilitypoint) Also XP is somewhat more designed to = run=20 games, well, I don't needthat at work and don't need that = ability=20 taking up space on my hard drives.It all comes down to XP = being a=20 consumer targeted OS and NT4 was mostcertainly not.- = Bob=20 Comer"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3e46fccf{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs= p; =20 I have no doubt that one (only one) goal of Windows XP Home = Edition=20 wasto supercede Windows Me on consumer desktops. Robert = though=20 made a quitebroader claim regarding the overall goals and not = of this=20 product butWindows XP Professional and Windows NT Workstation=20 4.0. I'm sure Robertwill clear this up when he tells us = all the=20 goals of these two products.I'm particularly interested in = what goals=20 Windows NT Workstation 4.0 hadthat Windows XP did=20 not.Rich"Tony Ingenoso" <tonyiNOSPAM{at}attglobal.net&g=">mailto:tonyiNOSPAM{at}attglobal.net">tonyiNOSPAM{at}attglobal.net&g= t;=20 wrote in messagenews:3e46ed08{at}w3.nls.net...Easy= -=20 produce a consumer market acceptable OS so the 9x code base could=20 beretired. That there was no corresponding touchy-feely = 9x=20 release speaksvolumes.W2K was/is perfectly acceptable = for the=20 vast majority of business uses, butdidn't have the Mr Rogers=20 neighborhood ambiance of XP to appeal to thedrooling = masses. =20 With 9x hitting the showers, and apparently no plans for = astrictly=20 business oriented product, a unification product was mandatory = [Idon't=20 consider XP pro as being business oriented the way W2K = is]"Rich"=20 <{at}> wrote in message news:3e46e3cf{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs= p; =20 Facinating. Can you spell out these goals=20 = clearly?Rich ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C2D0DD.734AB1A0-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-4
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