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to: Rich
from: Robert Comer
date: 2003-02-10 11:38:16
subject: Re: The goals of Windows

From: "Robert Comer" 

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I see you don't want to discuss anything, no matter.....

- Bob Comer


  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e47cf97{at}w3.nls.net...
     As I said, hand waving and bullshitting.

  Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message =
news:3e47b034{at}w3.nls.net...
    I stated the main goal, and that's enough.

    - Bob Comer ,You want a discussion you're going to have to do =
better.>


      "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e47597f{at}w3.nls.net...
         I still have not seen from you a list of all the goals of =
either of these two products.  You can say you provided the goals = without
actually doing so all you want.  It's still hand waving and = bullshitting.
 Either put up or shut up.

      Rich

        "Robert Comer"  wrote in message =
news:3e473425{at}w3.nls.net...
        I most certainly did.

        >It all comes down to XP being a consumer targeted OS and NT4 =
was most
        certainly not.

        That's what I said and meant.

        >All you have to offer is that Windows XP Professional has a =
superset of the
        capabilities of Windows NT Workstation 4.0.

        A superset that compromises its usability for my purposes.

        >   Are you even going to try or shall we all accept that you =
were just
        bullshitting?

        Nope, not going to try any more after this, arguing with you is =
like arguing
        with a rabid pit bull. (all bite and no logic.)

        - Bob Comer



        "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e472168{at}w3.nls.net...
           You still have failed to state the goal of either Windows XP =
Professional
        or Windows NT Workstation 4.0.  All you have to offer is that =
Windows XP
        Professional has a superset of the capabilities of Windows NT =
Workstation
        4.0.

           Are you even going to try or shall we all accept that you =
were just
        bullshitting?

        Rich

        "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
        news:3e471302{at}w3.nls.net...
        Nice dig, but Geo has it partly right, it's what XP is designed =
to do that
        NT4 wasn't -- Product activation, integrated Messenger and WMP =
(for the
        masses, it doesn't mean squat we don't need that at work as a =
vulnerability
        point)  Also XP is somewhat more designed to run games, well, I =
don't need
        that at work and don't need that ability taking up space on my =
hard drives.

        It all comes down to XP being a consumer targeted OS and NT4 was =
most
        certainly not.

        - Bob Comer


        "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e46fccf{at}w3.nls.net...
           I have no doubt that one (only one) goal of Windows XP Home =
Edition was
        to supercede Windows Me on consumer desktops.  Robert though =
made a quite
        broader claim regarding the overall goals and not of this =
product but
        Windows XP Professional and Windows NT Workstation 4.0.  I'm =
sure Robert
        will clear this up when he tells us all the goals of these two =
products.
        I'm particularly interested in what goals Windows NT Workstation =
4.0 had
        that Windows XP did not.

        Rich

        "Tony Ingenoso"  wrote in message
        news:3e46ed08{at}w3.nls.net...
        Easy - produce a consumer market acceptable OS so the 9x code =
base could be
        retired.  That there was no corresponding touchy-feely 9x =
release speaks
        volumes.

        W2K was/is perfectly acceptable for the vast majority of =
business uses, but
        didn't have the Mr Rogers neighborhood ambiance of XP to appeal =
to the
        drooling masses.  With 9x hitting the showers, and apparently no =
plans for a
        strictly business oriented product, a unification product was =
mandatory [I
        don't consider XP pro as being business oriented the way W2K is]
        "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e46e3cf{at}w3.nls.net...
           Facinating.  Can you spell out these goals clearly?

        Rich


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I see you don't want to discuss =
anything, no=20
matter.....
 
- Bob Comer
 
 
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3e47cf97{at}w3.nls.net... As I said, hand waving = and=20 bullshitting. Rich
"Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com> = wrote=20 in message news:3e47b034{at}w3.nls.net... I stated the main goal, and that's=20 enough. - Bob Comer ,You want a discussion = you're going=20 to have to do better.>
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3e47597f{at}w3.nls.net... I still have not = seen from you a=20 list of all the goals of either of these two products. You = can say=20 you provided the goals without actually doing so all you = want. It's=20 still hand waving and bullshitting. Either put up or shut=20 up. Rich "Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20 wrote in message news:3e473425{at}w3.nls.net...I = most certainly did.>It all comes down to XP being a = consumer=20 targeted OS and NT4 was mostcertainly not.That's = what I said=20 and meant.>All you have to offer is that Windows XP=20 Professional has a superset of thecapabilities of Windows NT = Workstation 4.0.A superset that compromises its = usability for my=20 purposes.> Are you even going to try or = shall we=20 all accept that you were justbullshitting?Nope, not = going to=20 try any more after this, arguing with you is like = arguingwith a=20 rabid pit bull. (all bite and no logic.)- Bob=20 Comer"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3e472168{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs= p; =20 You still have failed to state the goal of either Windows XP=20 Professionalor Windows NT Workstation 4.0. All you = have to=20 offer is that Windows XPProfessional has a superset of the=20 capabilities of Windows NT = Workstation4.0. Are=20 you even going to try or shall we all accept that you were=20 justbullshitting?Rich"Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>=20 wrote in messagenews:3e471302{at}w3.nls.net...Nice= =20 dig, but Geo has it partly right, it's what XP is designed to do = thatNT4 wasn't -- Product activation, integrated Messenger = and WMP=20 (for themasses, it doesn't mean squat we don't need that at = work as=20 a vulnerabilitypoint) Also XP is somewhat more = designed to run=20 games, well, I don't needthat at work and don't need that = ability=20 taking up space on my hard drives.It all comes down to = XP being=20 a consumer targeted OS and NT4 was mostcertainly = not.- Bob=20 Comer"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3e46fccf{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs= p; =20 I have no doubt that one (only one) goal of Windows XP Home = Edition=20 wasto supercede Windows Me on consumer desktops. = Robert though=20 made a quitebroader claim regarding the overall goals and = not of=20 this product butWindows XP Professional and Windows NT = Workstation=20 4.0. I'm sure Robertwill clear this up when he tells = us all=20 the goals of these two products.I'm particularly interested = in what=20 goals Windows NT Workstation 4.0 hadthat Windows XP did=20 not.Rich"Tony Ingenoso" <tonyiNOSPAM{at}attglobal.net&g=">mailto:tonyiNOSPAM{at}attglobal.net">tonyiNOSPAM{at}attglobal.net&g= t;=20 wrote in messagenews:3e46ed08{at}w3.nls.net...Easy= =20 - produce a consumer market acceptable OS so the 9x code base = could=20 beretired. That there was no corresponding = touchy-feely 9x=20 release speaksvolumes.W2K was/is perfectly = acceptable for=20 the vast majority of business uses, butdidn't have the Mr = Rogers=20 neighborhood ambiance of XP to appeal to thedrooling = masses. =20 With 9x hitting the showers, and apparently no plans for = astrictly=20 business oriented product, a unification product was mandatory=20 [Idon't consider XP pro as being business oriented the way = W2K=20 is]"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3e46e3cf{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs= p; =20 Facinating. Can you spell out these goals=20 = clearly?Rich ------=_NextPart_000_012A_01C2D0F8.E76D4500-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-4
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