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to: Rich
from: Robert Comer
date: 2003-02-10 09:07:44
subject: Re: The goals of Windows

From: "Robert Comer" 

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I stated the main goal, and that's enough.

- Bob Comer ,You want a discussion you're going to have to do better.>


  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e47597f{at}w3.nls.net...
     I still have not seen from you a list of all the goals of either of =
these two products.  You can say you provided the goals without actually =
doing so all you want.  It's still hand waving and bullshitting.  Either =
put up or shut up.

  Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message =
news:3e473425{at}w3.nls.net...
    I most certainly did.

    >It all comes down to XP being a consumer targeted OS and NT4 was =
most
    certainly not.

    That's what I said and meant.

    >All you have to offer is that Windows XP Professional has a =
superset of the
    capabilities of Windows NT Workstation 4.0.

    A superset that compromises its usability for my purposes.

    >   Are you even going to try or shall we all accept that you were =
just
    bullshitting?

    Nope, not going to try any more after this, arguing with you is like =
arguing
    with a rabid pit bull. (all bite and no logic.)

    - Bob Comer



    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e472168{at}w3.nls.net...
       You still have failed to state the goal of either Windows XP =
Professional
    or Windows NT Workstation 4.0.  All you have to offer is that =
Windows XP
    Professional has a superset of the capabilities of Windows NT =
Workstation
    4.0.

       Are you even going to try or shall we all accept that you were =
just
    bullshitting?

    Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
    news:3e471302{at}w3.nls.net...
    Nice dig, but Geo has it partly right, it's what XP is designed to =
do that
    NT4 wasn't -- Product activation, integrated Messenger and WMP (for =
the
    masses, it doesn't mean squat we don't need that at work as a =
vulnerability
    point)  Also XP is somewhat more designed to run games, well, I =
don't need
    that at work and don't need that ability taking up space on my hard =
drives.

    It all comes down to XP being a consumer targeted OS and NT4 was =
most
    certainly not.

    - Bob Comer


    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e46fccf{at}w3.nls.net...
       I have no doubt that one (only one) goal of Windows XP Home =
Edition was
    to supercede Windows Me on consumer desktops.  Robert though made a =
quite
    broader claim regarding the overall goals and not of this product =
but
    Windows XP Professional and Windows NT Workstation 4.0.  I'm sure =
Robert
    will clear this up when he tells us all the goals of these two =
products.
    I'm particularly interested in what goals Windows NT Workstation 4.0 =
had
    that Windows XP did not.

    Rich

    "Tony Ingenoso"  wrote in message
    news:3e46ed08{at}w3.nls.net...
    Easy - produce a consumer market acceptable OS so the 9x code base =
could be
    retired.  That there was no corresponding touchy-feely 9x release =
speaks
    volumes.

    W2K was/is perfectly acceptable for the vast majority of business =
uses, but
    didn't have the Mr Rogers neighborhood ambiance of XP to appeal to =
the
    drooling masses.  With 9x hitting the showers, and apparently no =
plans for a
    strictly business oriented product, a unification product was =
mandatory [I
    don't consider XP pro as being business oriented the way W2K is]
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e46e3cf{at}w3.nls.net...
       Facinating.  Can you spell out these goals clearly?

    Rich


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- Bob Comer ,You want a discussion =
you're going to=20
have to do better.>
 
 
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