>> For an "apparent" scientific person

 MvdV>> Nothing "apparent" about it. I have the credentials.

 > yeah, so what...

 MvdV> Indeed so what?

yeah but you are the one who bit the bait and carried on about it ;)

 MvdV> Ask Peter, he was the one to bring it up.

why should i? you are the one who trots it out at times and then fails to
fully live up to it... that's your problem, not mine ;)

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