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   The web server application does run at ring 3 and the network =
protocol stack runs at ring 0.

   So other than trying to spread FUD, is there some point to your post?

Rich

  "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message =
news:pumm6v051iebdren2p4kkdck33ql5l2j5r{at}4ax.com...

  Web serving belongs in ring 3 not ring 0.

  One could argue (I won't bother this time) that network stacks should =
be in
  ring 0.  One could also argue that web serving is an application that
  belongs at ring 3.

  Indeed, when Microsoft was hawking LAN Manager against Netware way =
back
  when, one of Microsoft's big points against Netware was that Netware =
ran
  the loadable modules (server-based apps) in ring 0, unlike MS Lan =
Manager
  which ran its server-based apps in ring 3.

  Of course, if running everything in kernel mode is what Microsoft =
needs to
  do in order to compete speed-wise with Linux, well don't you think =
that
  says something about the efficiency of Windows as a server platform?


   /m

  On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 16:12:04 -0500, "Geo."  wrote:

  >Same sort of thing Unix does with tcp/ip stack, what's the problem?
  >
  >Geo.
  >
  >"Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
  >news:kh3k6vgka6c2n06nvurgj450qggfli7u4a{at}4ax.com...
  >> On Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:32:44 -0500, "Geo."
 wrote:
  >>
  >> >They also have implemented a new kernel mode driver for web =
serving which
  >> >they claim is a significant speed increase although I haven't =
tested that
  >> >yet.
  >>
  >> Oh great, yet another potential high-bandwidth security hole into =
the deep
  >> interior of Windows....
  >>
  >>  /m{you would think MS would have learned by now...}
  >>
  >

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Rich
 

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