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   You ignored the specific features I mentioned again.

Rich

  "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message =
news:3e6938ee$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  No I don't have to prove a generalization, you do. To destroy your
  generalization I need merely show examples which show that your
  generalization is false.

  I could go through many other examples (e.g. distributed cluster =
computing
  tools for Windows vs Linux ) that demonstrate that you were throwing =
out a
  false generalization just as you claim others do.


  adam

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e693320{at}w3.nls.net...
     NTFS is more than just a journal file system.  I notice you ignored
  everything else.  Cat got you tongue?

  Rich

    "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
  news:3e692dfe{at}w3.nls.net...
    I don't have to start with a non specific generalization I could =
simply
    reverse your exmples to show the facile nature of your =
generalization.

    e.g re NTFS How many Journalled File Systems has Windows got? XFS? =
JFS?
    Ext3? ReiserFS?

    So in simple journalled filesystem support  it's well known that =
Windows
  has
    less functionality.

    Adam

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e68c81f{at}w3.nls.net...
       Where do you want to start?  NTFS, ACLs, compression, EFS,
    ActiveDirectory, integrated security, etc.  And this is without =
going
  beyond
    the file system nor is it a complete list for just the file system.

    Rich

      "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
    news:3e6853c2$1{at}w3.nls.net...

      "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e67d5e4$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      >   Can you be specific instead of hot air and hand waving?

       >  It's well known that Linux has less functionality.

      Gone on then specify what you mean by that last comment. Can you =
be
    specific
      instead of hot air and hand waving?


      Adam

      If you want to roll your own it can cost less for Linux, assuming =
your
    time
      is worth nothing.  If you want to use a supported version, like =
from
    RedHat,
      expect to spend much more for your annual subscription.  They will =
sell
    you
      a subscription to red hat linux advanced server for $1499 per =
year.  If
    you
      want their supported enterprise level web server you are going to =
pay
      another $395 to $895 annually.  That's more than four to six times =
more
      expensive than the Windows Server 2003 solution.

      Rich

        "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
      news:3e67b7d1{at}w3.nls.net...
        Less functionality, higher cost. Ease of use is a draw, but it =
would
    have
      to be even cheaper just for a web server.

        - Bob Comer


          "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e67b63f{at}w3.nls.net...
             By what criteria and how so?

          Rich

            "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
      news:3e67ae88$1{at}w3.nls.net...
            That's not good enough to compete with Linux.

            - Bob Comer


            "Geo."  wrote in message
      news:3e67a4e1$1{at}w3.nls.net...
            > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/29567.html
            >
            > There will be no price increases (as such) when Microsoft =
ships
    its
      next
            > server OS, Windows Server 2003, on April 24th, but there =
will be
  a
      new
            > budget-priced version of the product aimed squarely at the =
web
      server
            > market. Server 2003 Web Edition comes without client =
access
      licences, with
            a
            > 2gig limit on memory, 2-way SMP, and is $399.
            >
            >





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   You
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features I=20
mentioned again.
 
Rich
 

  "Adam Flinton" <adam{at}NOSPAMsoftfab.com>">mailto:adam{at}NOSPAMsoftfab.com">adam{at}NOSPAMsoftfab.com>
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  don't have to prove a generalization, you do. To destroy=20
  yourgeneralization I need merely show examples which show that=20
  yourgeneralization is false.I could go
through many other =
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  (e.g. distributed cluster computingtools for Windows vs Linux ) =
that=20
  demonstrate that you were throwing out afalse generalization just =
as you=20
  claim others
do.adam"Rich"
<{at}> wrote in =
message news:3e693320{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
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  NTFS is more than just a journal file system.  I notice you=20
  ignoredeverything else.  Cat got you=20
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wrote in=20
  messagenews:3e692dfe{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; I=20
  don't have to start with a non specific generalization I could=20
  simply  reverse your exmples to show the facile nature of =
your=20
  generalization.  e.g re NTFS How many
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Systems has=20
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ReiserFS?  So in =
simple=20
  journalled filesystem support  it's well known that=20
  Windowshas  less
functionality.  =
Adam =20
  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3e68c81f{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p;   =20
  Where do you want to start?  NTFS, ACLs, compression, =
EFS, =20
  ActiveDirectory, integrated security, etc.  And this is without=20
  goingbeyond  the file system nor is it a
complete list =
for just=20
  the file system. 
Rich    "Adam =
Flinton"=20
  <adam{at}NOSPAMsoftfab.com>=20">mailto:adam{at}NOSPAMsoftfab.com">adam{at}NOSPAMsoftfab.com>=20
  wrote in message  news:3e6853c2$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
   =20
  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:3e67d5e4$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
   =20
  >   Can you be specific instead of hot air and hand=20
  waving?    
>  It's well known =
that Linux=20
  has less functionality.   
Gone on then specify =
what=20
  you mean by that last comment. Can you be =20
  specific    instead of hot air and hand=20
  waving?   
Adam    =
If you=20
  want to roll your own it can cost less for Linux, assuming =
your =20
  time    is worth nothing. 
If you want to use =
a=20
  supported version, like from 
RedHat,    =
expect to=20
  spend much more for your annual subscription.  They will =
sell =20
  you    a subscription to red hat
linux advanced =
server for=20
  $1499 per year.  If 
you    want =
their=20
  supported enterprise level web server you are going to=20
  pay    another $395 to $895
annually.  That's =
more=20
  than four to six times more   
expensive than the =
Windows=20
  Server 2003 solution.   =20
 
Rich     
"Robert Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>
= wrote in=20
  message    news:3e67b7d1{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p;    =20
  Less functionality, higher cost. Ease of use is a draw, but it =
would =20
  have    to be even cheaper just for a web=20
 
server.     
- Bob=20
 
Comer       
"Rich" =
<{at}>=20
  wrote in message news:3e67b63f{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p;         =20
  By what criteria and how =
so?       =20
 
Rich         
=
"Robert=20
  Comer" <bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>">mailto:bobcomer{at}mindspring.com">bobcomer{at}mindspring.com>
= wrote in=20
  message    news:3e67ae88$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
         =20
  That's not good enough to compete with=20
 
Linux.         
- =
Bob=20
  =
Comer         
= "Geo."=20
  <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote =
in=20
  message    news:3e67a4e1$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
         =20
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>         
> =
There will=20
  be no price increases (as such) when Microsoft ships =20
  its   =20
 
next         
> =
server OS,=20
  Windows Server 2003, on April 24th, but there will=20
  bea   =20
 
new         
>=20
  budget-priced version of the product aimed squarely at the=20
  web   =20
 
server         
> =
market.=20
  Server 2003 Web Edition comes without client =
access   =20
  licences, =
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> 2gig =
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  memory, 2-way SMP, and is=20
 
$399.         =20
 
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