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echo: classic_computer
to: Greg Goodwin
from: John Guillory
date: 2012-04-06 20:57:00
subject: Commodore PC

GG>I think all and all the Commodore (both C-64 and Amiga) were decent computers.

GG>I have a few.  :)
    The thing about the Amiga is, there was different modals.  I
remember folks that where big fans of the Amiga's often touted the
Amiga's features.  Don't get me wrong, even the cheapest Amiga's was
good for what it could do and all, but They'd brag about the way the
high end Amiga's could do Video Editing and make comercials and all,
then in the same sentence say you could pick up an Amiga for (and then
quote the price of the low-end Amiga's) in the same sentence...  When
mentioning the low end Amiga's that where in the price range they
quoted, they'd say "Oh no, those Amiga's are junk, I don't consider them
an Amiga!"  I didn't know as much about the Amiga's as I did on the
Commodores.  Learning Assembly Language from a book a friend let me
borrow helped a lot!  Later picking up several Machine Language Monitors
and Assemblers made even better.  I loved Fast Assembler.  You write
your program in Basic, like:

  10 FOR T = 1 TO 3
  20 IF T = 3 THEN ORG 2048,1,8,"0:myprog,P"
  30 LDA #0
  40 STA 53280
  50 RTS
  60 NEXT T

It'd do a 3-pass assembly and allow you to even embed eg. the 10 SYS +
address fairly easy that way... Kinda like the data commands, which was
why I loved Fast Assembler!  You could write programs that looked like
you compiled it in Basic Compilers, or write some really funky code...
Eg.

10 SYS 2060
   (ml code stored here)
20 SYS 2080
   (ml code stored here)
30 PRINT "Bye Bye!"
40 END

And have the program look like the above somewhat....
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