From: "Adam Flinton" 

What? EDS/CapGem/IBM GS Support or direct support from the distrib owner?

Adam

"Rich"  wrote in message news:3e68c854{at}w3.nls.net...
   OK.  How much does this cost?

Rich
  "Adam Flinton"  wrote in message
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  I don't know any major comp (there may be some, I jus don't know them)
which
  relies directly upon MS for support. EDS yes...CapGemini yes, IBM GS
  yes....direct MS support?

  However I do know a couple which do have a direct channel into the distrib
  comp whose distrib they're using (in Europe Suse are especailly good at
  this).


  Adam


  Rich

    "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
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    >  Can you be specific instead of hot air and hand waving?

    I just stated my opinion, that's all. I'm not here to list out
everything
    possible.

    >   It's well known that Linux has less functionality.

    I'm not so sure that can be said any more, but no matter I wasn't just
    talking overall OS functionality, but what you can do with that specific
    version of Windows Server -- with no Cal's, that means no NT
  authentication,
    files serving, or print serving, and I assume no domain capabilities --
    that's 4 areas that Windows is strong on and Linux needs to catch up,
yet
  I
    can put together a Linux box that does all 5 of these things for a LOT
  less
    money.

    >If you want to roll your own it can cost less for Linux, assuming your
  time
    is worth >nothing.

    There's actually a decent amount of free support out there, and you
don't
    have to roll your own version, you can use someone's distribution.

    >If you want to use a supported version, like from RedHat, expect to
spend
    much more for your annual subscription.  They will sell you a
subscription
    to red hat linux advanced server for $1499 per year.<

    I would *never* pay Red Hat that much, they don't have enough to offer
    support wise.  I have spent that much on Microsoft products several
times
    over up to now, but things are a changin.  I might add that Microsoft is
    quite costly for aftermarket support and I don't buy that either.

    >If you want their supported enterprise level web server you are going
to
    pay another $395 to $895 annually.  That's more than four to six times
  more
    expensive than the Windows Server 2003 solution.<

    I got it beat -- I have a server here at home (always learning) that
cost
  $0
    for the Linux and about $200 for the hardware.  (I also have a Linux
  client
    PC here that I paid $99 for and I'm not going to do that again, at least
  not
    this distribution.)

    - Bob Comer



    "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e67d5e4$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       Can you be specific instead of hot air and hand waving?

       It's well known that Linux has less functionality.  If you want to
roll
    your own it can cost less for Linux, assuming your time is worth
nothing.
    If you want to use a supported version, like from RedHat, expect to
spend
    much more for your annual subscription.  They will sell you a
subscription
    to red hat linux advanced server for $1499 per year.  If you want their
    supported enterprise level web server you are going to pay another $395
to
    $895 annually.  That's more than four to six times more expensive than
the
    Windows Server 2003 solution.

    Rich

      "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
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      Less functionality, higher cost. Ease of use is a draw, but it would
  have
    to be even cheaper just for a web server.

      - Bob Comer


        "Rich"  wrote in message news:3e67b63f{at}w3.nls.net...
           By what criteria and how so?

        Rich

          "Robert Comer"  wrote in message
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          That's not good enough to compete with Linux.

          - Bob Comer


          "Geo."  wrote in message
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          > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/61/29567.html
          >
          > There will be no price increases (as such) when Microsoft ships
  its
    next
          > server OS, Windows Server 2003, on April 24th, but there will be
a
    new
          > budget-priced version of the product aimed squarely at the web
    server
          > market. Server 2003 Web Edition comes without client access
    licences, with
          a
          > 2gig limit on memory, 2-way SMP, and is $399.
          >
          >

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